View Full Version : Ever hear of a "Smoke Daddy"?


Cheech
01-27-2012, 09:14 PM
A friend of mine ordered a Smoke Daddy smoker and I have never heard of one before. He claims that it looks and works just like a Traeger but I have never hear of one. Can anyone tell me anything about them? Are they any good? The price seems right but the made in China thing has me a bit worried.

BBQ Engineer
01-27-2012, 09:17 PM
My guess is that this is it...

http://www.smokedaddyinc.com/pelletgrill.htm


Don't know anything about 'em.

MossyMO
01-27-2012, 09:21 PM
All they are is a aluminum canister for smoking wood pellets and use a fish tank pump to push the smoke into your smoker. I have the Big Kahuna model and am not overly impressed with it. I have heard the manufacturer has made improvements to it, and mine is 5 or 6 years old... Just seems cumbersome and not easy to clean to me... here is a link to their website - http://www.smokedaddyinc.com/smokers.htm

I missed BBQ's E's post before I submitted mine. I wasn't aware of that pellet grill he posted, but at first glance it looks like a Traeger clone with a Big Kahuna attached to it!

Cheech
01-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Thanks guys, he claims that when you pull back the Smoke Daddy sticker it is intended for a Traeger sticker? Not sure what to think about that. I really like to focus on American Made products but with a price difference of $600 for the Smoke Daddy and $800-900 for the Royall American made I have to compare the difference.

Richtee
01-27-2012, 09:43 PM
What's Yoder got to offer?

MossyMO
01-27-2012, 09:46 PM
There was a very large amount of Traegers without the badges shipped into the United States a while back that are being sold as knock offs or clones but are from the Chinese hired Traeger manufacturer. Just one of those things that can happen when an American company farms out the manufacturing overseas; our American patents evidently do not pertain to the Chinese legally.

Richtee
01-27-2012, 09:56 PM
There was a very large amount of Traegers without the badges shipped into the United States a while back that are being sold as knock offs or clones but are from the Chinese hired Traeger manufacturer. Just one of those things that can happen when an American company farms out the manufacturing overseas; our American patents evidently do not pertain to the Chinese legally.

I have heard this as well... caveat emptor.

gwapogorilla
01-28-2012, 05:00 AM
A friend of mine ordered a Smoke Daddy smoker and I have never heard of one before. He claims that it looks and works just like a Traeger but I have never hear of one. Can anyone tell me anything about them? Are they any good? The price seems right but the made in China thing has me a bit worried.

I also hear they are a cheap Traeger knock off. If you were to buy one and it needed service, who do you call for warranty support?:noidea: Something to keep in mind before you buy.

barkonbutts
01-28-2012, 05:38 AM
I have heard good and bad stories about the smoke daddy. I have not seen a review of the entire smoker but seems very much like the Tregger with and diff label. I was looking at them last night and did not like what I saw. The smoke daddy itself is a bit tricky as well.:noidea::noidea: Make sure you read up on it if you decide to go this way.

Bearcarver
01-28-2012, 07:41 AM
All they are is a aluminum canister for smoking wood pellets and use a fish tank pump to push the smoke into your smoker. I have the Big Kahuna model and am not overly impressed with it. I have heard the manufacturer has made improvements to it, and mine is 5 or 6 years old... Just seems cumbersome and not easy to clean to me...

I've had one for two years. I agree with what Mossy said. I tried everything. All I ever got was either too much smoke (and creosote), or it would jam up with tar, and I'd have to take a big screwdriver to bust it apart to get it going again. Constantly too much or too little smoke. Cleaning is a royal PITA.
Then I saw they had a change to it, and I got all excited, so my Son (machinist) called them & got the dope on how to change it over. He did so, and it wasn't any better. So I guess we are too dumb.

Got an AMNS & AMNPS (Smokers for dummys), and it's been perfect smoking ever since. Set it & forget it!!!

Bear

Richtee
01-28-2012, 08:15 AM
I've had one for two years. I agree with what Mossy said.

I been a-laughing at that thing ever since I seen it... and when it does work..it's GOTTA taste like old bias-ply tires... :lol:

Bearcarver
01-28-2012, 09:01 AM
I been a-laughing at that thing ever since I seen it... and when it does work..it's GOTTA taste like old bias-ply tires... :lol:


I don't like to pick on it, and the guy who sells them seems very nice on the phone, and the thing looks like a great idea, and looks like it should work fine, if you get it set right.
However it seems like only 1% of the people who purchase it are smart enough to use it properly, and I'm just not one of the 1%.

I only comment on it, because I wish somebody would have told me about them, before I blew nearly $100 on mine.

Live and learn,
Bear

BTW: It also works great for newbies, because they get all excited when they see a lot of smoke (like I did), until they learn that too much smoke is not a good thing.

Richtee
01-28-2012, 10:07 AM
I don't like to pick on it, and the guy who sells them seems very nice on the phone,

I'm sure he is and nothin' personal you understand... I just don't think it's a good idea Maybe it CAN be set up and adjusted for good operation, I don't know...never messed with one.

Bearcarver
01-28-2012, 10:31 AM
I'm sure he is and nothin' personal you understand... I just don't think it's a good idea Maybe it CAN be set up and adjusted for good operation, I don't know...never messed with one.


Exactly----You could be the nicest guy in the world, I will still report the problems with your product, when asked.
If my AMNPS sucked, I'd say it, and they just don't come any nicer than Todd. Also if it did suck, Todd would fix it. I know Todd had a few that didn't work so good, when we were testing them, until he got them to the near-perfection that they are now.

If there are good things about the product, I'll say that too.

I guess that's just the way Bears are (and Rich's too :lol:).

Bear

MossyMO
01-28-2012, 04:34 PM
Cheech, this one looks to be about a 20 minute drive from you - http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hsh/2734492803.html
Never know... if the electronics works just fine, with a little bit of haggling and some elbow grease it may be a good purchase on a pellet pooper!

Louisina Wood Pellet Grill - $500 (Rockford)
Model# CS-450 this grill new costs $800. works and in good condition. its clean. $500 or best offer.

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7240/traeger.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/traeger.jpg/) http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9027/traeger1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/traeger1.jpg/)

Cheech
01-28-2012, 04:54 PM
Cheech, this one looks to be about a 20 minute drive from you - http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hsh/2734492803.html
Never know... if the electronics works just fine, with a little bit of haggling and some elbow grease it may be a good purchase on a pellet pooper!

Louisina Wood Pellet Grill - $500 (Rockford)
Model# CS-450 this grill new costs $800. works and in good condition. its clean. $500 or best offer.

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7240/traeger.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/traeger.jpg/) http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9027/traeger1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/traeger1.jpg/)

Silly me never thought to look at CL :noidea:
Is this a good brand? Can not say that I have ever heard of this one either.

MossyMO
01-28-2012, 05:05 PM
Silly me never thought to look at CL :noidea:
Is this a good brand? Can not say that I have ever heard of this one either.

If you look through Minneapolis CL there is a dealer or 2 advertising them. Louisiana or Country Smoker; how I understand it, they are one in the same.

I have no clue on their quality, best thing would be Google and also check out the forums at the pellet pooper sites.

I'm not positive, but that CS-450 model code I swear I have seen used with Traeger also, I wonder if that is the model of the electronic control box and a few manufacturers use it...:noidea:

Cheech
01-28-2012, 05:11 PM
I am on a kick of trying to buy American made products. I see that it is made in Canada which is a ton better than "made in China" but still not the US. This may be one of those good as it gets, this is also what brought me to look at the Royall because I found out they are made in the USA. The price is the part that is difficult to get past. As far as I can tell there is a $400 difference and that is just a bit too much to sneeze at.

Hoser
01-28-2012, 05:13 PM
I have to agree with the general consensus that my Smoke Daddy is without a doubt the biggest POS I've ever bought in the way of Q supplies. Major PITA to get lit right and to clean. :noidea:

Live and learn....I use my Amazin smoker for all my cold smoking needs now.

MossyMO
01-28-2012, 05:35 PM
Cheech, Rich nailed the answer earlier (Yoder). I did not know you were looking in the Royall 3000 price range, I either did not notice or just scanned by it... I saw that you preferred to stick with an American manufacturer. I see the Royall 3000 sells for $1399, at that price range I would also compare the Yoder YS480 for $1099 or the YS640 for $1299.

I just recently got the YS640 and can say you really should take a strong look at it. Built like a brick weighing in at 350 lbs. and the cooking chamber is heavy 10 gauge steel. I am new to pellet smoking and still have plenty to learn about the grill, but I will say I am very impressed with this purchase.

I am not saying the Yoder is better than the Royall, just saying Yoder is worth considering.

Link to check out pricing - http://www.atbbq.com/store/show_by_tags/Grills%20&%20Smokers/Pellet%20Grills/Yoder%20Smokers%20Pellet%20Grills

Link to Yoder - http://www.yodersmokers.com/pellet.html

Link to a review done by our very own Wingman - http://www.smokingpit.com/Info/Yoder-YS640-Review.htm

Richtee
01-28-2012, 05:35 PM
I repeat... have you looked at the Yoders?

Cheech
01-28-2012, 05:39 PM
I repeat... have you looked at the Yoders?

I am just about to look at them. Currently am in the investigation stage but would rather not spend a ton of cash. I did not research the prices of the Yoder and Royall yet. I will check them out shortly.

It has been 3 years or so since I bought or built a new smoker. The last one is a large trailer smoker that I use for catering/parties etc what I would like is something that I can set and forget while I try new recipes etc.

Off to check out the Yoders

gwapogorilla
01-29-2012, 09:41 AM
I've had one for two years. I agree with what Mossy said. I tried everything. All I ever got was either too much smoke (and creosote), or it would jam up with tar, and I'd have to take a big screwdriver to bust it apart to get it going again. Constantly too much or too little smoke. Cleaning is a royal PITA.

Bear

Mine works great!:thumb: I love it, and I have never "over smoked" anything. I converted my chimney pipe to a gas coupling, and it works great.(It was my dads idea...love that guy!) All of the creosote stays in the unit, or gets trapped in the coupler. I use a round wire brush to clean the shortened pipes out. (The brush can be found in the pipe soldering supply section at the local hardware store) There is a trick to using them....


I have to use a torch to light mine, cold pellets are a bitch to light.
I have to have the air pump on high for the first 15 minutes, then I can adjust lower. If I do it sooner, I risk stalling the burn.
If I have it in my smoker-shed, I can turn the air pump down all of the way to 25%. BUT, if its outside on my grill, no lower than 75% or it will stall. Wind effects it?:noidea:
Chimney pipe must be cleaned after EVERY use.Main body gets a light scrapping.
I have only given the main body a good cleaning once on the inside, and the pellets stuck like crazy until I got some carbon built up again.

I have some photos here if anyone is interested.

For those of you considering getting rid of your SD, I may be interested in buying one.:thumb:

http://s1068.photobucket.com/albums/u445/gwapogorilla/

michael ark
01-29-2012, 11:21 AM
I think a mak is made in the usa.Nepas has one an he said it was the best pooper ever.mabe you can pm him and get the skinney.

Jimr
01-29-2012, 02:03 PM
i have the Smoke Daddy Big Kahuna and am up in the air about my opinion of it so far. I do know that it will not burn 6-8 hours like it is advertised no matter what you do. More like 2-3 hrs I had issues with lighting at first but now I use 2 lit charcoal briquets in the bottom then add my chips. Works great like that. I also added a small adjustable aquarium pump valve to the line to control the air flow better. You have to pull the top off and add chips before it goes out or you will need a screw driver to pry the top off. For cleaning it I use a small wire wheel that is at 90* to the drill you insert it in and "brush" out the inside. Wait until the unit cools off and clean it then. Once the buildup hardens it buffs off easily You will need a drill bit extension to reach inside the unit. I also use the wheel to buff off the build-up on the cover and bottom where it contacts the main body. The best time to clean the pipe that enters the main smoker compartment is when it is hot yet push a dowel rod through the pipe like cleaning a gun. The creosote pushes right out then. If I were to do it over again and the AMazen unit would have been around when I bought the Smoke Daddy, I probably would have bought the AMazen.:noidea:

Bearcarver
01-29-2012, 02:56 PM
I am in no way trying to talk anyone out of their Smoke Daddy. If it works good for you, that is fine.
I however have used it the old way & the new way. I found it very easy to light, but from there on nothing but a problem.
I have to admit my "Lopi" puts out almost as much creosote, but I don't smoke meat in my woodstove.
When I was trying the Big Kahuna, I cleaned it after every use, after soaking it in hot water. I tried pellets, chips, chunks, and combinations of those items. I tried all different settings on the electric aquarium pump, and I tried a valve in the line too. I could never get it to produce the proper amount of smoke for longer than one half hour.

Then Todd came out with the AMNS. I loaded it with Dust, lit it, and put it in. It will put out the perfect amount of smoke for 8 to 10 hours. I had a little problem with it if my temps were 220˚ or more. Then Todd came out with the AMNPS, which is good for any temp my MES 40 goes to. I load it with pellets, light it, and put it in. Then I'm good for 10 to 12 hours of perfect continuous & consistent smoke, without even touching it.
You can buy the AMNS & the AMNPS for less money than one Big Kahuna, but since the AMNPS is good for both Dust & Pellets, you only have to buy the AMNPS.

I have seen many guys say how great their Big Kahuna is, and I was glad to hear it. Most of them, after a month or two changed their comments, and ended up buying an AMNPS.
There are a few guys who say they have been using theirs for a long time & love them. They must just be smarter than me. :noidea:

Also, I repeat, "I wish people would have told me the Big K was a POS, before I laid out the $100 for it, and even more money since, trying to get it to work right".

Bear

nickelmore
01-29-2012, 05:21 PM
Interesting, I have had issues keeping my AMNS burning, but am trying a few different locations in my smoker, burning pellets etc.

I have a kahuna type generator unmodified to the present configuration. It will never generated "thin and blue". The old design will not allow it and am not too sure that the new one will either.

What you do get is white and billowy. This can be controlled with airflow to the generator AND air flow in the smoker. I also have never seen smoke times as advertised.

I have never "over smoked" anything to the creosote level, but it always is on my mind.

Clean up is a major PIA versus the AMNS, When I am done smokeing the last thing I want to do is spend time cleaning up more than I need to. And if you have too many pops and forget to clean it or take the end caps off, it is a real pain.

It tool me a long while to dial it in and get use to the white smoke, but I am looking forward to getting the AMNS dialed in with my dust and pellets.

Scarbelly
01-29-2012, 05:39 PM
Interesting, I have had issues keeping my AMNS burning, but am trying a few different locations in my smoker, burning pellets etc.

I have a kahuna type generator unmodified to the present configuration. It will never generated "thin and blue". The old design will not allow it and am not too sure that the new one will either.

What you do get is white and billowy. This can be controlled with airflow to the generator AND air flow in the smoker. I also have never seen smoke times as advertised.

I have never "over smoked" anything to the creosote level, but it always is on my mind.

Clean up is a major PIA versus the AMNS, When I am done smokeing the last thing I want to do is spend time cleaning up more than I need to. And if you have too many pops and forget to clean it or take the end caps off, it is a real pain.

It tool me a long while to dial it in and get use to the white smoke, but I am looking forward to getting the AMNS dialed in with my dust and pellets.

The AMNS was not designed to use pellets because of the dividers. The pellets burn a lot hotter than the sawdust and will jump rows and burn out very fast. The AMNPS has slanted dividers to keep the pellets from jumping
to the next row. It does require more airflow than the dust

gwapogorilla
01-29-2012, 06:37 PM
As far as smoke times go with my Kahuna...4 hours at best. But, I only use pellets. Usually I get about 2 1/2 hours of smoke out of a single fill, which is about 1.25 lbs.
I have noticed cold pellets are harder to light. And, some pellets types light better than other. Cherry pellets seem to be a real bitch to light, where as hickory and apple are easier.
Blue smoke...I've never seen it.:noidea: Honestly not sure if anyone has. Once you close the lid, the smoke starts to condense and the temperature starts to rise inside your unit. Thus, changing what you saw before you closed the lid.
I haven't had the pleasure to see the amazing smokers in action, they didn't have them when I got my SD. But they sure do take up alot of room in you cooker, which another reason I like my SD. Perhaps you guys could post more pics of those units in use.

Beaver Camp Sausage Company
01-30-2012, 12:54 AM
I have yet to figure out why people do not like these units. I use the hell out if mine and love it. I have never had the temperature of my smoker go up while using it. I could smoke all the time with it and it does not move my gauge one degree. I have to clean the tube after I use it but it takes 5 seconds no big deal. The build up on the walls flakes off and burns up with the next load of pellets. I will post pictures tomorrow of mine in use.

Wingman
01-30-2012, 02:06 AM
I did a video demonstrating efficient burn with thin blue smoke and non-efficient burn with white smoke. This was done on my GOSM. Guess what I used to generate a lot of white smoke from an inefficient burn? A big Kahuna... It's a creosote pump. It left my GOSM coated with black creosote. The following day I had to pry the lid off the Smoke Daddy. I worked with it over two weeks and ended up running it with a tiny aquarium pump (I purchased one) and leaving the lid off. The problem is the lid traps moisture. Even with pellets, they have moisture in them. I finally got It so I could burn wood chips and smoke cheese with great flavor with the lid off and pumping a fraction of air that it originally pumped. Oh by the way, it wasn't wet chips either. Hell, put the lid on with pellets then open it after a few minutes and you can see the pellets on top starting to swell due to moisture.

The AMAZE-N-SMOKER runs circles around the Smoke Daddy when it comes to ease of use and quality of food products. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. It's still in my garage... Anyone want to guy one cheap? :whistle:

gwapogorilla
01-30-2012, 05:31 AM
It's still in my garage... Anyone want to guy one cheap? :whistle:

PM me. :thumb:

Snarlingiron
01-30-2012, 07:37 AM
I been a-laughing at that thing ever since I seen it... and when it does work..it's GOTTA taste like old bias-ply tires...

Nope. I have been using a side box smoker for many years, but it won't allow for cold smoking. I bought an MES on a friends recommendation, and I like it. I also like the smoke daddy. Here is my experience:


I cannot get pellets to work well.
I find chips work great
It will not burn for 4 hours, but I just check it every couple of hours and top off the chip load
The cheeses, briskets, chickens, sausages, nova lox and turkeys I have smoked have been superb
I am puzzled by all the cleaning comments. I take a screwdriver and scrape lightly and that's about it.
When I am done there is just a small amount of fine ash left in the bottom
One of the reasons I bought the smoke daddy over one of the dust type units is I didn't want to be tied to having to order dust. I can get chips anywhere. Heck, I can make 'em myself.


As with all things, your mileage may vary. I can see that some would certainly prefer the simplicity of lighting the unit and forgetting it, and there is a mechanical component of the Smoke Daddy that may be off putting, but all I can say is it certainly works for me and so do the raves of the folks that eat my smoked foods.

Doug S.
01-30-2012, 10:55 AM
But they sure do take up alot of room in you cooker, which another reason I like my SD. Perhaps you guys could post more pics of those units in use.

Really 6"X6" or 6"X8" takes up too much room ?? :noidea::faint:

gwapogorilla
01-30-2012, 04:31 PM
Really 6"X6" or 6"X8" takes up too much room ?? :noidea::faint:

Well, let's see. 6" x 8" don't sound like much...if you have your baby backs resting right up against your mazin' smoker. Personally, I would give about 3 inches room in any directing because the heat coming of of the pellets/dust while they burn. Now, your 8" is up to 11" of space taken up. That is 1/3 of the length of my grill:faint:That's a lot of room that could be used for something else.:whistle:When I have company over, I need the entire grill.

Also, the mazin' smoker wouldn't work in my electric unit...period. I use water pans when I make hams or sausages. It helps cook the meats faster without drying them out. The humid environment would snuff out the mazin' smoker in nothing flat.

The SD works great for my applications.:thumb:

Blowin Smoke
01-30-2012, 06:09 PM
The amazing smoker is so simple to use a caveman could use it. No electric compressor or cords required.:whistle:
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQJ4YIs1HnPvTPKAJYbaeISL1cprn14c cVXS-SNBCp33BjofToF

Todd sent me some row dividers that look like a upside down solid V and they set on top of the row dividers... look like they are made to stop the pellets from jumping rows in a dust burner but haven't had a chance to use them as of yet.

merrell
01-30-2012, 06:44 PM
Here is a picture of my homegrown 'ASS-TOUN-DING Pellet Burnin Smoke Mutha', plumbed into the back side of a hog roaster. Inlet air vents on the backside and under the pellet tray. It gets some creosote buildup on the inside of the box and the pipe. But i figure what sticks on them, ain't goin in the cooker........Works :thumb::thumb:

9491

Beaver Camp Sausage Company
01-30-2012, 07:38 PM
Why would you worry about turning the inside of a smoker black? Seems to me that that is part of the smoking process. I have seen a lot of stick burners that have a lot of creosote build up in them.

Richtee
01-30-2012, 07:48 PM
Why would you worry about turning the inside of a smoker black? Seems to me that that is part of the smoking process. I have seen a lot of stick burners that have a lot of creosote build up in them.

To me... it's all about the combustion process. A stick burner has huge amounts of airflow available and produces a smoke that is "hotter" and therefor cleaner than the SD can hope for.

Indeed... the SD is better suited to producing good charcoal than smoke. Check out how lump is made.

Wingman
01-30-2012, 09:35 PM
Why would you worry about turning the inside of a smoker black? Seems to me that that is part of the smoking process. I have seen a lot of stick burners that have a lot of creosote build up in them.

Minor creosote is one thing, this stuff was like sticky tar. I did mention it even had the lid glued onto the smoke Daddy. The product just need some air flow and venting work done on it.

I'm into quality smoked meats. Folks want to pump creosote onto their food... This is America. Go with it. Just sayin... :thumb:

Mikey
01-30-2012, 09:46 PM
I haven't had the pleasure to see the amazing smokers in action, they didn't have them when I got my SD. But they sure do take up alot of room in your cooker, which is another reason I like my SD. Perhaps you guys could post more pics of those units in use.

Giving up 40 sq. inches on the charcoal grate is no big thing.
I don't lose any space on the cooking grate at all.
This is mine in the Kettle.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo151/Smokinmikey/005-23.jpg

DDave
01-30-2012, 10:00 PM
Why would you worry about turning the inside of a smoker black? Seems to me that that is part of the smoking process. I have seen a lot of stick burners that have a lot of creosote build up in them.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is someone maybe mistaking creosote for seasoning?

Dave

Beaver Camp Sausage Company
01-30-2012, 10:32 PM
Look up the definition creosote and tell me what I am missing. From what I read it is a part of the smoking and curing process of meats.

Wingman
01-30-2012, 10:54 PM
Look up the definition creosote and tell me what I am missing. From what I read it is a part of the smoking and curing process of meats.

Beaver Camp, you are correct as is my statement. My complaint was the amount of creosote produced. The more efficient the burn the less build up. A thin blue smoke is all you need. A non efficient fire especially in this case where alot of moisture combines with the creosote and you get a black tar like sunstance that bitters the meat. At least this how I have understood it.

Again everyones tastes are different and if folks like pumping this stuff in large quatities on their products , right on. Not me... As I did mention I actually got the Smoke Daddy to work way better. I was able to produce some really good cheese. I worked with the manufacturer who posted videos of removing the cap for a more efficient burn as it let trapped moisture escape. He later drilled vents in the top and bottom but the vents in the top are positioned too low and do not allow for enough ventting. THat was the last I dealt with the thing. The AMS is less of a fire hazard to my property, easier to use, no electricity and does a far better job on my products. IMHO... :thumb:

Beaver Camp Sausage Company
01-31-2012, 12:19 AM
Gotcha ya, I understand what you are throwing down. I'd take it off your hands if you want to sell it. I am in need of another one.

Savannahsmoker
01-31-2012, 12:44 AM
My complaint was the amount of creosote produced. The more efficient the burn the less build up. A thin blue smoke is all you need. A non efficient fire especially in this case where alot of moisture combines with the creosote and you get a black tar like sunstance that bitters the meat.


I have to agree with you Wingman about creosote and efficient burn. To get a more efficient burn I and some other Smoke Daddy users run it just like a mini stick burning pit. We do not choke it down to a smolder but run it with max air for nice clean burning fire, using chunks of wood and lump charcoal. You can see the start up burn in the picture with the top cover off.

http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh471/Savannahsmoker/Cold%20Smoking/Smoke%20Daddy/IMG_1826.jpg

When I ran it on pellets smoldering I had a problem with creosote and now, not a problem.

Richtee
01-31-2012, 06:04 AM
I have to agree with you Wingman about creosote and efficient burn. To get a more efficient burn I and some other Smoke Daddy users run it just like a mini stick burning pit. We do not choke it down to a smolder but run it with max air for nice clean burning fire, using chunks of wood and lump charcoal.

That- I could see. But the smoke time has to be pretty short?

gwapogorilla
01-31-2012, 06:04 AM
Minor creosote is one thing, this stuff was like sticky tar. I did mention it even had the lid glued onto the smoke Daddy. The product just need some air flow and venting work done on it.

I'm into quality smoked meats. Folks want to pump creosote onto their food... This is America. Go with it. Just sayin... :thumb:

My smoker is 22 years old, I helped the "old man" build it when we worked at a place that built "Pro-Smokers" commercial size units together.

We used to put chips, chunks, and dust in a cast iron pot on the burner to make smoke. That was all well and good for doing bacon and hams. But once we started putting turkey in there with a water pan, we noticed the "smoke flavor" wasn't nearly as pronounced, and there would be quite a few wood chunks left unburned. The moisture from the steam snuffed them right out.

I still use that same smoker today, and I can tell you mazin' smoker just won't work in it, nor at times is there room for it. That's what I really like about SD. It's on the outside of my unit and I can keep an eye on it.
I have never over smoked anything, just unplug it after 2 hours (or when ever) and that's it.
I'm not saying anything bad about Todd's "amazing smoker". It has it uses and places, just not in my applications.
But, like another poster put their pic of amazing smoker inside a box said..."it still collects creosote".
Guys, it's in the wood....you can't get away from it. What doesn't collect in your cold smoker goes into your grill where your food is.
So, the SD doesn't put anymore poisons into air than mazin' does, just more smoke at once. Which is great for my larger unit(size of a fridge) that mazin' wont handle.

And yes, you can do research on how to make lump charcoal.It is simple as I accidentally learned how with a cold smoker I had before my SD. You can also check to see how liquid smoke is made.

I have offered 3 times on this forum for someone to PM me with their asking price on the POS SD....no senders yet.

Bearcarver
01-31-2012, 07:39 AM
I'm sure you can get a small amount of creosote from just about anything, but the only time I ever got the old "tingling tongue" was from the Big Kahuna & when I test 9 volt batteries.

I guess the little AMNPS can get in the way of some set-ups, but they fit on the bars to the left of the chip burner, in an MES 30 & an MES 40. I have no idea what else could be put in that useless area of an MES.

I'll take $20 plus shipping, for my POS (minus the aquarium pump), if I can find all the parts. My son was playing around with it, trying to get it to work the way it's supposed to. However, even the videos on the Smoke Daddy site show much too heavy smoke. At least the ones I used to watch 2 years ago.

Bear

TJohnson
01-31-2012, 07:54 AM
Th OP was trying to get info on the SD Pellet Smoker, that's similar to the Traeger Pellet Grill/Smoker.

I know the guys who imported these into the U.S. and I own one. I had PelletHeads asking about my Pellet Smoker Gadget, so I figured I better buy a Pellet Grill/Smoker.

They are an "EXACT DUPLICATE" of a Traeger Pellet Grill/Smoker. Only thing missing is the Traeger Badge from the cover, and the logo from the controller. The owners manual is missing the word "Trager"

MossyMo asked me some questions about it, and I told him for the $$$, look at a Yoder 640. The Yoder a far superior smoker!!

The warranty is only as good as the guys backing it. A company like Traeger will have deeper pockets to warranty your product, than a guy who is selling them on EBay.

So far, my controller crapped out, and the paint bubbled in a couple spots. I upgraded to an ORTECH Controller and not sure what to do with the paint, cuz it's a crackle finish.

I can't comment on the SD Cold Smoker.........:whistle:
I obviously have a biased opinion!


Todd

Beaver Camp Sausage Company
01-31-2012, 10:31 AM
I'm sure you can get a small amount of creosote from just about anything, but the only time I ever got the old "tingling tongue" was from the Big Kahuna & when I test 9 volt batteries.

I guess the little AMNPS can get in the way of some set-ups, but they fit on the bars to the left of the chip burner, in an MES 30 & an MES 40. I have no idea what else could be put in that useless area of an MES.

I'll take $20 plus shipping, for my POS (minus the aquarium pump), if I can find all the parts. My son was playing around with it, trying to get it to work the way it's supposed to. However, even the videos on the Smoke Daddy site show much too heavy smoke. At least the ones I used to watch 2 years ago.

Bear

I WILL TAKE IT!!!! Let me know when and how to make it happen.

Bearcarver
01-31-2012, 12:02 PM
OOOOPS,
Sorry guys, I couldn't find it, and I checked with my Son, and he informed me he had it, and he was still performing some experiments with it. Since he went to the bother of getting the things needed & did the change-over to the backdraft design, I have to let him have it----That plus he is my only Son, and he turns 40 years old at 6:50 PM tonight. :lol::lol::lol:

I hope you guys understand, because I hate to feel like an Indian Giver in offering it up cheap, and then pulling it back. :sorry:

Bear

nickelmore
01-31-2012, 01:04 PM
Bear, let me know if he gets the back draft design to work. I have not modified mine yet.

gwapogorilla
01-31-2012, 05:42 PM
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Ever since we started debating on this issue, I haven't had a single argument with my wife!
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Doug S.
01-31-2012, 05:45 PM
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Ever since we started debating on this issue, I haven't had a single argument with my wife!
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Savannahsmoker
01-31-2012, 06:26 PM
That- I could see. But the smoke time has to be pretty short?

You are right Richtee, because I have feed it about every 30 minutes. I use it for higher temp cooks like roasting chickens or beef to add a little smoke.

Savannahsmoker
01-31-2012, 06:29 PM
If you have an older Smoke Daddy with out the back draft systems Dennis at Smoke Daddy might still modify it for you. He did both of mine.

BTW the back draft is a great improvement.

MossyMO
01-31-2012, 08:25 PM
I listed my Smoke Daddy Big Kahuna for sale in the Smoked-Meat classifieds if anyone is interested in purchasing it.

ExhaustedSpark
05-06-2012, 04:34 PM
yep i have. I bought mine from Mossy mo second hand. had it sent to Smokedaddy.com and they sent me the new up to date unit. It works great. If you want to burn chips and sawdust there is nothing better. My advise is to go for it i love it. Check out his videos. If you are only interest in burning pellets the Amazin cannot be beat.
I grind up my own chips from apple or etc branches so the Smoke cannot be beat there. My recommendation is to get both. There is no comparison between them . Apples and oranges if you know what i mean.
Karl

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