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    Well, for the past several weeks, I've been making jerky for something to snack on and for my boy to have a high protein snack for wrestling season.
    For the life of me, I just can't get a finished product that isn't overly salty. I've been using TQ strictly for this. Just finished up a batch an hour ago. Great flavor, but it's too damn salty. I've tried soaking the meat after the cure like one might with a pork belly for an hour or so, and it did reduce the saltiness greatly, but it also removed and of the flavor it might have had. I'm doing Teriyaki as that's what my boy likes.

    So far, my methods are as follows.

    Cure the meat with TQ and spices together. Had great flavor, but too salty.

    Cure the meat with TQ alone for the proper amount of time, rinse then add spices. Less salty, but it did not take on the flavor, a weakened version of it rather. Thinking that had something to do with osmosis?

    Was thinking about trying the dry cure box method as described in Micheal Rhulmans book, Charcuterie. Not sure how the salt level of that would compare to the same amount of TQ but figured it's worth a shot
    My only concern, and maybe it's nothing, but with TQ, you know how much to use based on the weight of the meat. With the dry cure box method, you take a premixed amount of dry cure and basically dredge the meat in it, shake off the excess and smoke it. So here's where my concern comes in. If one were to cure say a 1" thick slab of beef with this method, all side would be covered with cure. BUT, if one were to slice up the same slab into 1//4" thick strips, the weight of the meat would be the same as the whole slab,but there would be much more surface area for the cure, which in my mind, means using allot more cure You see where I'm going with this?

    I'm I just overthinking this?

    For those who don't know the ratios of his dry box method, it's as follows.

    1 pound Kosher Salt
    13 ounces Dextrose
    3 Ounces pink salt
    https://youtu.be/ZcqprrIlbcIli

  • #2
    For me TQ has too much salt. I use cure #1 and low sodium seasonings and have had excellent results.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by L20A View Post
      For me TQ has too much salt. I use cure #1 and low sodium seasonings and have had excellent results.
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      • #4
        Todd, just throwing this out, but Teriyaki is pretty salty on its own, maybe throw some #1 in with it, and skip the additional salt, or go with low sodium soy, and add a bit of sweetener like maple syrup.... OK Bud, Thanks.....
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        • #5
          Last time I did teriyaki jerky I went with this recipe and added the proper amount of cure#1. Cured for about 12-18 hours, then dry or smoke....was not too salty at all.

          http://www.smoked-meat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25136
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          • #6
            As the others stated above, I'm in the Cure #1 crowd. You can skip the salt all together or add to taste, depending on the recipe.

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            • #7
              this stuff is spot on

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              • #8
                How much TQ you using? Should only be using 1.5TEAspoons/Lb... or 1 TABLEspoon/2 pounds meat.
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                • #9
                  Thanks CA and Hoser, gonna hit them links now.

                  Rich, I went with the amounts on the bag, 1 Tbl per pound of meat.
                  https://youtu.be/ZcqprrIlbcIli

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Meat Hunter View Post
                    Thanks CA and Hoser, gonna hit them links now.

                    Rich, I went with the amounts on the bag, 1 Tbl per pound of meat.
                    There's the problem... for sausage/jerky...use half of that amount.... and allow a 24 hour cure time around 38°F


                    Originally posted by Meat Hunter
                    Morning Rich. Hey, I responded to you on that jerky thread. Did I F up? I went with 1 Tbl per pound per the directions on the TQ bag, but you suggested 1 1/2 teaspoons per. Now that I'm thinking about it, YOUR amounts make sense as its not a whole muscle, but rather sliced pieces. Still, 5# of meat is still 5# of meat, no matter how ya slice it (no pun intended LOL)
                    YEs, but it's a surface area/penetration thing... since it's basically getting the cure and salt directly to all the meat's area..the absorbtion will be faster, and more complete than a full muscle cut would be.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Richtee View Post
                      There's the problem... for sausage/jerky...use half of that amount.... and allow a 24 hour cure time around 38°F

                      Like Rich said, for Jerky use 1.5 TeaSpoons per pound, like with ground meat.
                      Then cure for 24 hours between 36* and 40*.

                      Mortons also had a recipe using 1 TBS per pound of Jerky, but then they were curing for only an hour or 2.

                      I like the 24 hour recipe best. I think that second one is dumb!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Richtee View Post
                        There's the problem... for sausage/jerky...use half of that amount.... and allow a 24 hour cure time around 38°F




                        YEs, but it's a surface area/penetration thing... since it's basically getting the cure and salt directly to all the meat's area..the absorbtion will be faster, and more complete than a full muscle cut would be.
                        CHIT, dammit, I remember now. See what happens when your outta the loop for a while. I put the TQ in a freakin Tupperware container and just wrote on it "1T per #" totally forgot about the ground meat thingy.

                        Rich, you da man.

                        I can believe I freaking forgot about that.
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                        • #13
                          Even at the 1T./2# amount you may still want to go with lo sodium soy and worch...assuming that there is a lite version of terri-yukky too...

                          The batch I just did took 2 days...First days batch was less salty then the second days batch...First day marinated 36 hours...Second day 24 more...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SMOKE FREAK View Post
                            Even at the 1T./2# amount you may still want to go with lo sodium soy and worch...assuming that there is a lite version of terri-yukky too...

                            The batch I just did took 2 days...First days batch was less salty then the second days batch...First day marinated 36 hours...Second day 24 more...
                            Yeah... true...if you are looking to keep salt down wherever ya can... that's good advice.
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                            • #15
                              What Rich said and cut the salt in your recipe waaay back, I don't use TQ so I cannot tell you how much. Maybe completely as Teriyaki is really salty and TQ is also.
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