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    As a New England transplant I am forever having things shipped to my adopted home from there. Some things necessary, some not, but my somewhat recent purchase of a USA Pan New England Style Hot Dog Pan has joined the ranks of things that will have to be pried from my cold dead hands.

    It arrived several weeks ago and I've been playing with it ever since trying it out with several hot dog roll recipes. Yes a roll, not a bun. The ubiquitous side split hot dog bun may be fine for most but some of us know a better way I originally bought this pan for lobster and clam rolls (no self respecting New Englander would eat a lobster salad or fried clams out if anything else and the reasoning behind that will become clear as you read on) but these rolls are so outrageously good I will never voluntarily eat a store bought side loader again. The New England style hot dog roll is a top loader that stands up on a flat bottom and is delicious enough to eat on its own. Try that with a tasteless, chalky, store bought side loader

    A bit of history from New England Today:

    New England-Style Hot Dog Rolls
    With a toasted, buttery outside and a soft inside, top-loading New England-style hot dog rolls are arguably some of the best buns in the world.
    Okay, maybe that’s being a little self-congratulatory, but really, what has greater potential to deliver something delicious on a hot New England summer day? The rolls are a perfect vehicle for grilled hot dogs topped with your favorite condiments, but they’re also the preferred roll for fresh Maine lobster rolls and fried clam rolls — two coastal New England classics.

    Funny enough, it was actually fried clams (not hot dogs) that led to the top-sliced roll’s creation sometime in the 1940’s. A 2013 Boston Globe article reported that the Maine-based bakery J.J. Nissen debuted the roll at the request of Howard Johnson’s, the Massachusetts-based roadside motel and restaurant chain giant that peppered the American landscape during the 1960s and 1970s. HoJo’s needed a bun that could hold its signature clam strips without tipping over, and J.J. Nissen’s creation was not only stable, but had flat cut sides that toasted up beautifully when buttered. The traditional “hinge-style” hot dog bun didn’t come along until the 1950s.

    The restaurant is credited with introducing the new style of bun to the country, where it became somewhat of a novelty, but here in New England, the roll became the roll of choice for hot dogs (aka frankfurters), lobster rolls, and clam rolls.

    My USA Pan New England Style Hot Dog Roll pan is a thing of beauty. It is a heavy weight commercial baking pan with a non stick coating that is awesome enough for me to buy new cake pans from USA Pan. I'm very impressed with this pan. The hot dog rolls bake evenly and just fall out of it without even a hint of sticking



    These are buttery rolls so we need to start with the right ingredients


    After a few trials, I wound up discarding the recommended recipe and procedure for these hot dog rolls and put them together a bit differently by rolling them
    individually and placing in the pan's troughs for a second rise before baking



    Each time I use this pan I get a little better at it. Still working on shaping but I'm almost there.









    These rolls have flat sides that can be buttered and toasted in a pan like a grilled cheese sandwich before loading. And they have flat bottoms so they stand up without any of that fall over nonsense



    Dogs in buttery New England Style Top Loading Hot Dog Rolls fully dressed.
    Tis a bit of heaven on Earth. Lobster rolls... here I come

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    don't all hotdogs go in the top ?

    It's how i've always done them, stops things like sauces and onions from falling out.

    Nice buns though

    what's the difference between europaen style butter - ie: what I would just call: butter.

    And, well some other kind of butter

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    • #3
      Outstanding!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by curious aardvark View Post
        don't all hotdogs go in the top ?

        It's how i've always done them, stops things like sauces and onions from falling out.

        Nice buns though

        what's the difference between europaen style butter - ie: what I would just call: butter.

        And, well some other kind of butter

        And I still think that's the best avatar ever
        Commercially baked hot dog buns are side split and cannot stand on their own. They just roll over and die the miserable death all tasteless things deserve

        European style butter, what Europeans call butter, has remarkable flavor that commercially mass produced American butters can only dream about. I'm also fond of Kerrygold Irish butter. Its worth the added expense
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        • #5
          huh, who knew - you live and learn, just thought butter was butter the world over :-)
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          • #6
            Nice buns

            That's a nice gig if someone wants to take the time to bake the buns or maybe just enjoys baking.
            But for me, I don't eat enough of them to go to all the time and trouble to bake them, especially when I can buy several different brands of top-sliced buns in all the grocery stores, Sam's, and Costco down here. These are just a few brands that I have bought and used.
            Pepperidge Farm
            Wonder® New England Hot Dog Buns
            KING'S HAWAIIAN
            I'm betting the chain grocery stores or Sam's near you carry some brand of them.
            You enjoy baking them and that is great. I'm sure yours taste better than the others, but not everyone has the time or inclination to bake hotdog buns.
            JMHO-YMMV
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            • #7
              Those look great and the pan looks real neat too.

              I wonder if that pan would work for Chicago style......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BYBBQ View Post
                I'm sure yours taste better than the others...
                That's all that counts. Especially when we're talking lobster rolls
                Originally posted by BYBBQ View Post
                .......but not everyone has the time or inclination to bake hotdog buns.
                I find it a bit odd that folks posting in a cooking forum don't seem to have time to cook anything. If you don't have the time or inclination to make them, don't make them. I'm simply relating what I consider to be an absolute game changer.

                The pan is not a necessity as these rolls can also be hand shaped and they will be fine. Just won't be as uniform.

                Homemade hot dog rolls as well as homemade hamburger buns are not everyday things but they are awesome. Make the dough in a bread machine and set it for when you want it to be ready for the second rise. Active time = 10-15 min. Less time than it would take to drive to your local Wonderbread outlet.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gracoman View Post
                  I'm also fond of Kerrygold Irish butter. Its worth the added expense
                  I’ve bouught that stuff a few times. It’s really noticeably “butterier’? Really shines on straight buttered things...breads, corn, etc.

                  Nice bunz!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gracoman View Post
                    That's all that counts. Especially when we're talking lobster rolls

                    I find it a bit odd that folks posting in a cooking forum don't seem to have time to cook anything. If you don't have the time or inclination to make them, don't make them. I'm simply relating what I consider to be an absolute game changer.

                    The pan is not a necessity as these rolls can also be hand shaped and they will be fine. Just won't be as uniform.

                    Homemade hot dog rolls as well as homemade hamburger buns are not everyday things but they are awesome. Make the dough in a bread machine and set it for when you want it to be ready for the second rise. Active time = 10-15 min. Less time than it would take to drive to your local Wonderbread outlet.
                    I think it's great that you like to bake but, a lot of people don't.
                    I'm retired and cook everyday, but I don't want to spend 2-3 hours or more to make hotdog buns and I'm not going to spend a bunch of money on a automatic bread making machine that I might use once or twice a year and it takes more than 10-15 minutes just to bake them.
                    I understand you like to bake, you have a machine, and to you it is worth the time to make them. More power to you.
                    I would rather spend my time cooking different foods rather than baking. I don't enjoy baking, never have.
                    I don't see what's so odd, not all people like the same type of foods, cooking, or baking, maybe that's why they don't have the time for some of the things that someone else makes the time to cook. Everyone is different.
                    JMHO-YMMV
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BYBBQ View Post
                      I don't see what's so odd, not all people like the same type of foods, cooking, or baking, maybe that's why they don't have the time for some of the things that someone else makes the time to cook. Everyone is different.
                      What I find amusing about the thing is...and no..I don’t bake much..yet will spend 15 hours kissing a brisket’s ass
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                      • #12
                        WOW...that looks great. Nothing better than fresh bread, and I can only imagine the impact on a hot dog, bratwurst, philly cheese steak. I gotta see the lobster roll.

                        Love your posts...they are truly inspiring and I always learn something. I've been just getting run of the mill butter...gonna expand my search and find some European or Kerry gold.

                        And the dog avatar makes me laugh every time.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BBQ Engineer View Post

                          And the dog avatar makes me laugh every time.
                          I've owned three Malamoots and thinking about a forth. That's 30+ years with those crazy sled dogs and the avatar is more telling than you might think. It really captures their personalities. Intelligent clowns.

                          Kerrygold will change your life forever. Deep yellow and very flavorful it will make you wonder what that other stuff you've been using is. It's a good place to start. I like Plugrá for baking. It is lighter in color and flavor than Kerrygold but still light years ahead of typical mass marketed American butters. Yes, even the one with the Indian maiden on the box.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BYBBQ View Post
                            I think it's great that you like to bake but, a lot of people don't.
                            I'm retired and cook everyday, but I don't want to spend 2-3 hours or more to make hotdog buns and I'm not going to spend a bunch of money on a automatic bread making machine that I might use once or twice a year and it takes more than 10-15 minutes just to bake them.
                            I understand you like to bake, you have a machine, and to you it is worth the time to make them. More power to you.
                            I would rather spend my time cooking different foods rather than baking. I don't enjoy baking, never have.
                            I don't see what's so odd, not all people like the same type of foods, cooking, or baking, maybe that's why they don't have the time for some of the things that someone else makes the time to cook. Everyone is different.
                            JMHO-YMMV
                            Hey, I get it. We are just coming from two different places.

                            I'm the worst baker on the planet. I can get by but not easily so occasionally I go through a baking phase because how else am I going to learn? Its frustrating to be sure but I just put my head down and go for it. Sometimes I'm lucky. Most times I'm not. But I get better at it with every failure. Baking is a precision kind of a deal and I upped my game considerably when I started using formulas instead of recipes. Weigh the ingredients and you will be ahead of the game.

                            I used a stand mixer to make the dough but I had hoped perhaps you owned a bread maker to simplify the whole thing.

                            I am also my own worst critic and I'm difficult to please. If I'm focused on something and I can't seem to get it right, I'll do it over and over until I do. Unless, of course, the ingredient cost is prohibitive then I'll have to wait a while. Its a personality flaw. One of many

                            The thing that is odd to me is this is the second time out of two posts that I have been called on doing something that wasn't worth the time doing. These things (Arpege egg and New England Style Hot Dog Rolls) may seem trivial but they have captured my imagination and must be explored. I grew up with these hot dog rolls and cannot buy them. After baking these rolls I will never buy hot dog side split tasteless buns again. I guess I'm screwed
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by gracoman View Post
                              I grew up with these hot dog rolls and cannot buy them. After baking these rolls I will never buy hot dog side split tasteless buns again.
                              At what cost do we draw the line? Methinks it’s not at monetary cost. Nor time. It’s taste. Some things are so ingrained and basic we must pursue whatever avenues we need to to achieve the goal.

                              Call it fickle..call it OCD, call it late for dinner...

                              We all have idiosyncrasies, likes and memories.

                              Fuck’s sake..I love White Castle burgers. I cannot find a way to reproduce them. I try.. but I eat those damned gut bombs a half dozen at a time. Rarely anymore..but I’d LOVE to make one one day.
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