I know it's not a cast iron question (mods feel free to move), but I'm wondering if any of the dutch oven afficianados have used or do use aluminum ovens at all. I'm by no means a dutch oven expert, but do know my way around them some. For some time I've contemplated getting an aluminum dutch oven to minimize weight on our pack trips and float trips. They weigh about a third as much as a cast oven. Aluminum can be a touchy material for cooking, prone to hot spots, etc. Appreciate any help.
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Interesting question MP..... Looking forward to some thoughts..... I used to have a Teflon or something coated aluminum skillet & would pack in place of the CI skillet.... HUGE weight difference.
So what would be the criteria for considering an aluminum pot with a lid a DO? ..... Thickness? ..... Just curious?sigpic
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Originally posted by Fishawn View PostInteresting question MP..... Looking forward to some thoughts..... I used to have a Teflon or something coated aluminum skillet & would pack in place of the CI skillet.... HUGE weight difference.
So what would be the criteria for considering an aluminum pot with a lid a DO? ..... Thickness? ..... Just curious?
http://www.gsioutdoors.com/products/...ed_dutch_oven/
http://www.campchef.com/dutch-ovens/...tch-ovens.htmlsigpic
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I've seen them on REI.com, pretty slick and pricey...if you pull the trigger, I'll be interested in hearing what you have to say.
One plus: no worries on rust!
I'm sure that if you rotate the top, and the bottom, 1/4 turns every so often you'll minimize hot spots pretty well...that's what I do with my CI anyway.
here are some good reviews, but I don't have personal experience:
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I'm also thinking I like the GSI's higher lip...be a bit harder for ash to spill in when you lift the lid. Make fun of me if you want...I've had it happen before.Weber Smokey Joe
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Originally posted by Fat_Head_Carl View PostI'm also thinking I like the GSI's higher lip...be a bit harder for ash to spill in when you lift the lid. Make fun of me if you want...I've had it happen before.sigpic
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more I think about it...I have a bunch of GSI's camping gear, and its all top notch stuff. it also looks as if the lid loop is steel, and I think that's a plus, as the thin aluminum loop on the Bayou could be subject to breakage in transporting.
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If weight is the deciding factor for packing or float trips, they are great.
Hard anodized is the way to go on an aluminum oven.
A few adjustments will be needed if you are used to cast iron ovens.
Preheating happens much faster with aluminum than cast iron, so much so that I typically wind up over preheating, especially when baking breads.
I also have trouble when factoring in hold over cooking times that I get used to in my cast iron. The aluminum cools off much faster, and occasionally I have had trouble, having everything else for the meal, coming together at the same time. My iron holds serve-able temperatures long enough to not worry about the time, where as the aluminum needs close attention to prevent luke warm or cold food.
Biggest difference is that if you are used to utilizing coals from a campfire, as opposed to utilizing charcoal briquets, the aluminum ovens are not as forgiving. Counting out a given number of briquets, will ratio out to a given cooking temperature, and the aluminum ovens do well. Hot coals from a log fire, however, can apply more heat than the aluminum can tolerate. I find that over heating is very easy to do when using a campfire, as opposed to counting out briquets. No need to ask how I can give you a great deal on a warped one! I've been using iron for well over 40 years, and yes have occasionally applied more heat than was necessary, and had to eat a slightly scorched meal, but never, have I ever, warped a piece of my cast iron.
I think it is all in what you get used to. If I only owned aluminum, it would be easy to learn the ovens. I just have to carefully remember to treat them as completely different animals. I like my aluminum (#2, the un-warped one) for canoe camping only.Louisiana by birth, stayed for the FOOD
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I looked at a Camp Chef one at Sportsman's Warehouse recently and it looked like it was made well. I contemplated buying one but decided I like the CI better because it holds heat longer. But I do not go on camping trips like you and I can see why you may want something lighter to take along.
So in other words, I'm no help!Becky
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Originally posted by mulepackin View PostWell, I'm referring specifically to actual aluminum dutch ovens. GSI and Camp Chef make them, among others. These are the ones I've considered;
http://www.gsioutdoors.com/products/...ed_dutch_oven/
http://www.campchef.com/dutch-ovens/...tch-ovens.html
i am sure you are thinking of weight saving when packing in to elk camp... i thought about getting one too but bro in law wont hardly drink out of an alum can... so i just passed on it.Charbroil SFB
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I use my Club aluminum Dutch Ovens (1950's) all the time. I have a complete set (I think). I do use them camping but on a traditional type stove or on a fire. They have Bakelite handles on the top so I don't think I try putting coals on the top. They also do not gave a ridge around the top to hold the coals on. I know both Wagner and Griswold both made them, but I have not tried one.Mark
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bear in mind that aluminium cookware is linked to an increasing chance of early onset alzheimers.
Aluminium is acool metal - but you don't want it in your bloodstream.
Personally I try not to use ANY aluminium cookware - ever.
Ah (looks at actual cookware in question) - ok that side of things has been sorted, anodised and non-reactive.
In that case - sure, why not :-)Made In England - Fine Tuned By The USAJust call me 'One Grind'
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WHAT C.A. said. I avoid all aluminum cookware especially pots and pans.
Originally posted by curious aardvark View Postbear in mind that aluminium cookware is linked to an increasing chance of early onset alzheimers.
Aluminium is acool metal - but you don't want it in your bloodstream.
Personally I try not to use ANY aluminium cookware - ever.
Ah (looks at actual cookware in question) - ok that side of things has been sorted, anodised and non-reactive.
In that case - sure, why not :-)
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Lots of good information here folks ,thanks. Not too worried about aluminum and Alzheimers. I've not seen any good studies to support this, only correlatives and theories. Last I saw the current thinking was that Alzheimers pts. sequester larger amts. of aluminum in brain tissues and plaques, but it wasn't felt the aluminum caused the disease. We know for an absolute fact that cholesterol, and fat in our diets contribute significantly to heart disease, but we are all knowingly eating it every day, as do I (I am a cardiology nurse by profession mind you) but thanks for the concern. I'm not going to touch on nitrites, nitrates and cancersigpic
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