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  • #16
    Originally posted by THE ICEMAN View Post
    Given all the testing that the Tour de France participants went through, I find it very hard to believe that a couple of accusations could take him down. As far as I am concerned, he will always be a Champion.

    And his only mistake in life IMNSHO was dating Sheryl Crow.
    Agreed! The French have been trying to discredit him for years and the US anti-doping agency (or whatever its officially called) had no hard evidence, only "eye witness" testimony. IMO, he should have kept the fight going and gone for his day in court. But I can also understand the feeling of F it, I know what I've accomplished, especially after year after year of innuendo w/o proof. Guess it'll all come out now and we'll see.

    As for Cheryl Crow, I dont know how he could stand the rationed Toilet paper in the house.
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    • #17
      if stripped, the 2nd place will be awarded the win...............wait, weren't they also found to be juiced? so this dude either juiced and beat others who were juiced or this one nutted superman was clean and beat a field of juice heads. i think cycling has bigger issues than this witchhunt on LA.
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      • #18
        I don't know HOW to feel, really. I mean I'm not a fan, but given his accomplishments and his popularity, he has to withstand some scrutiny I think. Now, choosing not to defend himself, AND knowing the consequences... it DOES make one wonder.
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        • #19
          I don't blame him one bit. The guy has fought this crap for many years, just to stay in the competition. All this added to his battles with Cancer.

          Then you got guys with 20" biceps, no necks, and 2" peckers with shriveled up sidecars strutting around on the football field every Sunday.

          I think he was just too good at what he did, and some people just couldn't stand it!!!

          If he really is a Doper, maybe he should run for Governator!!!


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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bearcarver View Post

            If he really is a Doper, maybe he should run for Governator!!!


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            • #21
              Total grandstanding by the us agency. All endorsement contracts still in place, contributions for his charity are actually up and his fans are still behind him.
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              • #22
                I was watching the British BBC news last night and said that the tour organizers had refused to comment so far and wouldn't recognize the decision unless the world cycling org came to the same conclusion and at this stage were Lilly to over rule it
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                • #23
                  Here's my question:

                  This is his whole reputation and legacy. What he's worked his whole life for. LA turned victories, cancer into huge income. Live Strong is a really strong brand that makes millions. All of this is going to be effected. Some, if not all is going to end.

                  My wife wants to believe he's innocent. My only question is, if he is.... why would he stop fighting? Something smells rotten in Rome. I've had lawyers pointed at me, and I've pointed a few lawyers before and all I know is they love to fight. he called off the dogs. He's either broke, or guilty. If he's the latter, then he made the right move and left enough questions in everyones mind that he can salvage the brand. Be a Pete Rose....
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MrZip66 View Post
                    Here's my question:

                    This is his whole reputation and legacy. What he's worked his whole life for. LA turned victories, cancer into huge income. Live Strong is a really strong brand that makes millions. All of this is going to be effected. Some, if not all is going to end.

                    My wife wants to believe he's innocent. My only question is, if he is.... why would he stop fighting? Something smells rotten in Rome. I've had lawyers pointed at me, and I've pointed a few lawyers before and all I know is they love to fight. he called off the dogs. He's either broke, or guilty. If he's the latter, then he made the right move and left enough questions in everyones mind that he can salvage the brand. Be a Pete Rose....
                    I see that the constant accusation finally took the toll...and I don't blame him after enduring by some accounts more than 500 passed drug tests. At some point enough is enough.

                    I try and relate this to my own life, and if Mrs. Engineer harps on me to do something for more than a couple of weekends, I finally snap (and do what she wants me to do), because I get tired of hearing it. By looking at his own statement on the matter, I can see it...he has had enough and it's time to move on...and make no mistake, these accusations won't quit...ever.

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                    “There comes a point in every man’s life when he has to say, ‘Enough is enough.’ For me, that time is now.” He added: “If I thought for one moment that by participating in USADA’s process, I could confront these allegations in a fair setting and – once and for all – put these charges to rest, I would jump at the chance. But I refuse to participate in a process that is so one-sided and unfair.” (click here for the full statement)
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bearcarver View Post
                      Then you got guys with 20" biceps, no necks, and 2" peckers with shriveled up sidecars strutting around.........
                      hey, were you peeking over my fence...............got me nailed...............minus the 20'' biceps........and i do have a neck..............
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                      • #26
                        Lmao rob
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BBQ Engineer View Post
                          I try and relate this to my own life, and if Mrs. Engineer harps on me to do something for more than a couple of weekends, I finally snap (and do what she wants me to do), because I get tired of hearing it. By looking at his own statement on the matter, I can see it...he has had enough and it's time to move on...and make no mistake, these accusations won't quit...ever.

                          I gotcha, but the stakes were a little higher than a wife nagging more than a couple of weeks. I get those too, and I fold like a drunk prom date.

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                          • #28
                            I could give 2 shits about cycling, but I'll say this I agree with tas. My name means more to me than anything I have. If somebody accused me of something that I was innocent of I would fight it no matter how long or how much money it takes. Your name is something that sticks with you even when your six feet under. My opinion of him before was that he was the best at cycling now with him not defending himself It's kinda admission of guilt and its to bad but that's how I feel.
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                            • #29
                              The whole point is that the us drug mob have every right to investigate allegations but have no right, power, or due restriction to strip him of his medals.
                              Exactly what is their motivation I ponder, he should be a national sporting hero, he's overcome odds that would end a secretaries career let alone an elite athletes , he's raised half a billion and set up an institution to fight and research cancer for his fellow man.
                              I realy do question what their motivation is when the world cycling body would be straight on it first if their was any doubt in their mind.
                              Guilty or innocent it's a pretty low thing to do to one of your own
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by dales133 View Post
                                The whole point is that the us drug mob have every right to investigate allegations but have no right, power, or due restriction to strip him of his medals.
                                Exactly what is their motivation I ponder, he should be a national sporting hero, he's overcome odds that would end a secretaries career let alone an elite athletes , he's raised half a billion and set up an institution to fight and research cancer for his fellow man.
                                I realy do question what their motivation is when the world cycling body would be straight on it first if their was any doubt in their mind.
                                Guilty or innocent it's a pretty low thing to do to one of your own
                                i really agree with Dale and BBQE alot on this subject. not a fan so i have no dog in this show so am unbiased. but if they strip him of his titles from the tour de france, so in the past 10 years even if they give the runner ups the title, there is only one year where the runner up would not be linked to PED'S(that they know of)...so even if he was guilty who was he competing against who was not??? worse case scenario he was competing against a field of equal.
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