Danger Zone - Low & Slow in the danger zone too long?

[Richtee]

And I often say we don't eat enough dirt...BUT... when it comes to advice, especially to those cooking for others, we MUST err on the side of caution...agreed? Sure, there are shortcuts and cheats- but we CANNOT advise them.

[Vlap]

or just read up on the real facts and not depend on hearsay

but like i said erring on the side of caution is good.

[Richtee]

I'm sure Rich will be pleased to see the Feds poking around.

Hehehe... I'm cool. Altho the last batch of ABT's could only be described as "explosive"

[Richtee]

or just read up on the real facts and not depend on hearsay

Nothing in BBally's post is hearsay. It's fact. Now...to what lengths are we willing to go- what is the real risk? That's up to the individual and their experiences I suppose.

[Walking Dude]

I hate to say it but I am there with WD. I think we have gotten way too sterile in this country.
Some of the people I know who are sick the most often are the cleanest people I know.
Although erring on the side of caution is good , I feel it goes too far at times. Just be smart in how you handle your food and getting it into the smoker introduces it to a low oxygen, high heat environment. Both are not good for bacterial development. The salting also hurts bacterial development.

i am of the opinon our kids do NOT play in the dirt enuff..........was nutting for us growing up, to play in places where moms today would have a heart attack. and hence..........the kids today getting sick all the time........you get TOO strerile, your body cannot produce the needed anti-bodies to fight off sickness, they may come upon.......

and rich......your WARNING THEN, should be on EVERY POST..........thankx for doing that on MY POST ! ! !

its ALL OPINION........but thankx for singling me out anyways.........you ARE on the ball......oh grand master.........

[Richtee]

i am of the opinon our kids do NOT play in the dirt enuff..........was nutting for us growing up, to play in places where moms today would have a heart attack. and hence..........the kids today getting sick all the time........you get TOO strerile, your body cannot produce the needed anti-bodies to fight off sickness, they may come upon.......

and rich......your WARNING THEN, should be on EVERY POST..........thankx for doing that on MY POST ! ! !

its ALL OPINION........but thankx for singling me out anyways.........you ARE on the ball......oh grand master.........

Heh...I did that for your entertainment. I can always delete it ;{)

As you read, I'm with you in some regards. But advice given has to be as close to accepted procedures as practical.

[Richtee]

Just be smart in how you handle your food and getting it into the smoker introduces it to a low oxygen, high heat environment. Both are not good for bacterial development.

Unless we speak of botulisim. Then it happens to be a good envirionment. Hence the 4 hour danger zone or curing processes. In particular with jerky- as most is done very slow.

[Texas-Hunter]

I kinda get that warm fuzzy feeling when these two argue....lol

[Richtee]

I kinda get that warm fuzzy feeling when these two argue....lol

Heh..that's MOLD, dude!

[DDave]

BUT... when it comes to advice, especially to those cooking for others, we MUST err on the side of caution...agreed? Sure, there are shortcuts and cheats- but we CANNOT advise them.

I'm with Rich on this. And anecdotal evidence is not the same as scientific proof.

You know all of those great motorcycle jumps that Evel Knievel did during his career? None of them killed him. That doesn't mean that they were safe.

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Or perhaps a better example . . . and I don't mean to offend anyone.

You don't have to wear a condom to have sex with a prostitute . . . but it is probably safer if you do.

Dave

[wutang]

I gotta go with the "Better safe than sorry" approach.

Hey Fat Head Carl, I bet you didn't think by asking a food safety question we would end up at Evil Knievel and prostitutes.

[DDave]

Hey Fat Head Carl, I bet you didn't think by asking a food safety question we would end up at Evil Canieval and prostitutes.

Just trying to illustrate a point.

I gotta go with the "Better safe than sorry" approach.

Which you summed up very nicely. And more succinctly than I did, I must say.

Dave

[Kyote]

I'm sure Rich will be pleased to see the Feds poking around.

Blaaahaahaa..

[wutang]

Just trying to illustrate a point.

It was perfect. I had to give you

[Kyote]

oh,my....