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Venison Dried Beef (Dry Cured With TQ)

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My son gave me about 8 pounds of Deer hind quarter.
Gotta make some Venison Dried Beef in my MES 40.

Day #1:
I cut the quarters into easy to cure pieces, trimmed all of the fat, some of the other stuff & the small loose pieces off.
Rinsed it all real good and patted dry with paper towels.
Then I weighed each piece, calculated how much Tender Quick to use, and weighed those amounts in paper plates (1/2 ounce of TQ per pound of solid meat).

Next I rubbed those amounts of cure, along with equal amounts of Brown sugar on each piece, and put the pieces of meat into zip-lock bags.
I was very careful to put anything that fell off of each piece into the bag with the piece that it fell off of, so the right amount of cure stays with the piece of meat it was designated for. This (IMO) is very important, because if you weigh the proper amount for each piece, that amount has to stay with each piece, in order to have the proper amount of cure with each piece!

Then I put those packages of meat in my meat fridge at a constant 37˚/38˚.
The thickest piece of meat was 2", so I calculated the length of time to be a Minimum of 6 days in cure.
I also added 2 more days for safety, to make sure the cure got into the center of each piece.
I massaged & flipped each bag every day.

8 Days Later:
I drained and rinsed each piece, and soaked them in ice water for 1/2 hour.
I then removed one piece & sliced a few little sample strips, and did a fry test---Perfect--Not salty at all!
I pulled them all out of the ice water, and dried them all off real good.
Then put them on my MES 40 racks, and seasoned them with a light coating of CBP, Garlic Powder, and Onion Powder.
Then back into my meat fridge "uncovered" for an overnight air drying and pellicle forming.

Next Day (Day #9):
6:40 AM-----Pre-heat smoker to 130˚.
7:00 AM-----Put meat in smoker at 130˚ (no smoke---to dry better before adding smoke).
8:00 AM-----Load A-MAZE-N-SMOKER with Hickory Dust, light it, and put in bottom of smoker.
11:00 AM----Bump heat up to 140˚.
1:00 PM-----Bump heat up to 160˚.
3:00 PM-----Bump heat to 180˚.
5:00 PM-----Removed AMNS & bumped heat up to 190˚.
6:00 PM-----Bumped heat up to 200˚.
8:00 PM-----Checked all pieces for at least 158˚. All pieces were between 159˚ and 172˚.

Removed & spread out on two dishes outside of smoker (Cold outside).
After cooling down good, I took the meat in & put it in the microwave (keeps the cat away) to cool some more.

After cooling down to about 90˚, I wrapped all pieces in plastic wrap & put in fridge overnight.

Slice real thin the next day.

This stuff is Awesome!

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6 1/2 pounds of Venison Hind Quarter meat, all cleaned up & defatted:



Cure weighed out to match the 6 pieces of meat in the first picture:



Meat & cure & Brown Sugar in bags, ready for fridge:



Soaking in ice water, after 8 days in cure:



Test frying a few slices----Perfect!




Pieces all seasoned up, ready for overnight in fridge, uncovered to dry & form pellicle:



Pieces after smoking, and overnight in fridge (wrapped), and ready for slicing:



All sliced up Paper Thin---MMMMmmmm............



All ready for freezing and eating:
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Interesting...I guess I'm not as familiar with "dried meat" as I thought... or was the sliced stuff dried more before packaging? Looks fantastic, Bear!
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Interesting...I guess I'm not as familiar with "dried meat" as I thought... or was the sliced stuff dried more before packaging? Looks fantastic, Bear!

Hi Rich,
I think I know what you mean:
A departed friend of mine used to have the biggest Dried Beef Company on the East Coast (Knauss' Dried Beef). They had to dry theirs much more because of packaging it in plastic pouches & vacuum packed jars that were displayed at room temp in stores.
This stuff is much tastier than store bought, because it is a little bit more moist, but I wouldn't keep it out of the fridge for days.
Also the local butcher shops here sell theirs from behind the glass showcase, and theirs is quite moist too.

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AHHH true dat! But it sure has MY mouth watering! I guess that's very worthy!
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very interesting, and it looks similar (like an "american version") to what i want to do with my romanian pastramă project:

http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards....roject-pastram

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Nice post Bear, Interesting thing is, I don't think I've ever had dried beef, except for jerky, thanks for posting it
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AHHH true dat! But it sure has MY mouth watering! I guess that's very worthy!
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very interesting, and it looks similar (like an "american version") to what i want to do with my romanian pastramă project:

http://foodsoftheworld.activeboards....s_forum71.html

thanks for posting!

Thanks Tas',
I noticed a few guys asking around about Dried Beef. That's why I made this my first post. Hope it helps a few guys.
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Nice post Bear, Interesting thing is, I don't think I've ever had dried beef, except for jerky, thanks for posting it
Thanks Dan!!
You'd love it, and it's a whole lot easier to make than any of those Great sausages & hot dogs you make!!!

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Great looking stuff as usual Bear. I am still waiting to make some dried beef like this. We use to buy this stuff like you said at our local butcher for lunches during high school and it was soo good. I can only imagine that this would be even better. Points for sure.
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indeed, very points worthy!

this is one i'd like to give a try. as i get into my pastramă project, i might see if i can do this as well. bearcarver: i've got a few one-pound roasts that i held back - if i am correct, these would work well for this? thickness on all of them is less than 2 inches, i am sure, but if not i can butterfly them.

for those of you who are having trouble envisioning this one, it always reminds me of the stuff used for "chipped beef" sandwiches, only a lot tastier-looking ~
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Excellent thread and totally worthy..... But cops got me handcuffed..... Beautiful color on that stuff Bear
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well I'd call it venison ham ('cos that's what it is lol)

But what's in a nam - looks seriosuly tasty
and for the pics :-) (when I've got some more :-( )

The cooking process looks a little involved - 14 hours ! I guess that's where the 'dried' aspect comes in (but it's not beef no matter how much you say it is )

But It's from the hind leg, it's cured and cooked/dried. It's artisan venison ham :-)
And a fine looking stuff at that.
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Looks wonderful.......................P for
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well I'd call it venison ham ('cos that's what it is lol)

But what's in a nam - looks seriosuly tasty
and for the pics :-) (when I've got some more :-( )

The cooking process looks a little involved - 14 hours ! I guess that's where the 'dried' aspect comes in (but it's not beef no matter how much you say it is )

But It's from the hind leg, it's cured and cooked/dried. It's artisan venison ham :-)
And a fine looking stuff at that.

Ahhhh, you make excellent points, Mr Aardvark (And Thank You):
I/we only call it Venison Dried Beef, so people know what we mean. If I just said, "Dried Venision", most PA Dutchmen would think I meant Jerky. Around here when I say Dried Beef, or Venison Dried Beef, everybody in my neck of the woods would think SOS, but personally I don't use my stuff for SOS---It's too good. I use store bought for SOS (Creamed Chipped Beef on Toast). I use mine for lunch meat & snacking.
Actually I think real SOS is with hamburger--not Dried Beef.

As for calling it "Ham"---I also make this from Venison Backstraps, Venison Shoulder, or any other piece of Venison that I can get the fat & junk off of first, and they all taste the same.

However I certainly do get your points.

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Thank All of you guys for the points, but I have to say, I didn't make that comment about that being the first points I got for over a year, in order to drag a bunch of points out of you guys. Heck---Now I gotta go look up how to give them!!!!

I only mentioned that, because they did away with them at the other place.

So take it easy---I'm feeling like a beggar!!!


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That's some excellent looking venison, Bear. Glad to see you spending some time over here.
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I only mentioned that, because they did away with them at the other place.

So take it easy---I'm feeling like a beggar!!!
There's another place?

Listen Bear..I am about the stingiest Mo-Fo on this board with points...if I gives 'em to ya YOU EARNED 'EM!
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I cook and smoke a lot of vension and it's not beef. And dried is jerky. Now if you would have said like chipped beef, I would have understood the title right away. Lol. Interesting. Not sure I'd use my venison for it, but thanks for another idea.

Gotta give ya for sharing this, and for the detailed post.
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