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Last year I made a thread here asking for opinions on whether or not to judge the county fair's BBQ "comp". Your advice was what I was thinking, no! This " comp" was a situation where you cooked it at home and brought the meats in to be judged. Due to food safety I said no and expressed how stupid this was to a fair board member. He said next year they'll have the smokers on site and have an actual comp. Now I've been looking forward to this since he said that.

Now a couple of weeks ago the wife told me to check out the website. I did, the board member I know good quit and so did a couple more. Looked at the entry form for the "comp" same shit as last year 3 categories, ribs, shredded meat, and sliced meat. Needs to be cooked at home on a grill or smoker. You can season and prepare the meat anyway you want. Bout the only rule is no chicken(oh now they're worried about food safety)

So I've been thinking. Maybe for ribs to do beef ribs or cure a rack of spares. For sliced I was thinking maybe cure a pork loin for Canadian bacon, cure a brisket for pastrami, or hell smoke a couple of pieces of my homemade bacon. For shredded I was thinking of curing a butt for some pulled ham.

I wished they'd realize they're losing out on some money by not having it onsite and charging the public to sample it. So should I proceed with my plan or just say screw it and not do it, then express to the board how stupid this is.
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So should I proceed with my plan or just say screw it and not do it, then express to the board how stupid this is.
You already know the answer, but just ask yourself what's different this year than last..
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Someone needs to slap someone. Now..I don't know about the "selling" thing. You'd likely run into issues if evey competitor did not have a STFU. But I'd sure feel a helluva lot better judging if I seen the sites and the prep/cooking.
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But I'd sure feel a helluva lot better judging if I seen the sites and the prep/cooking.
"Needs to be cooked at home on a grill or smoker. You can season and prepare the meat anyway you want. Bout the only rule is no chicken(oh now they're worried about food safety)"

You going to everyone's house to check them out and make sure they're doing it right?
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I didn't judge last year due to food safety, I almost entered it but our mud volleyball team won a couple games and didn't make it home in time. This year I think my wife told our friends I was doing the comp instean of volleyball. Well now I'm not doing neither so I could cook at home. I just didn't know would curing things be a dick move. Frankly I don't really care about it that much besides A) maybe it'll show the board how one can alter meat B) I haven't cured anything in awhile and I have the urge to turn something pink
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Someone needs to slap someone. Now..I don't know about the "selling" thing. You'd likely run into issues if evey competitor did not have a STFU. But I'd sure feel a helluva lot better judging if I seen the sites and the prep/cooking.
What the neighboring county does is ask for a $5 donation to sample. They also supplied the meat. I did that one last year and I bet there was 500 to 1000 people. It was huge.
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I just didn't know would curing things be a dick move. Frankly I don't really care about it that much besides A) maybe it'll show the board how one can alter meat B) I haven't cured anything in awhile and I have the urge to turn something pink
Kind of trying to figure out what it is you're trying to accomplish here. If you are unhappy with the way the comp is run now, "expressing to the board how stupid this is" or doing something that you are thinking "might be a dick move" likely won't do much to improve the situation.

Why don't you offer to help organize an onsite comp? Could be that no one on the board has a clue how to go about it which is probably the reason it's kind of messed up now.

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Kind of trying to figure out what it is you're trying to accomplish here. If you are unhappy with the way the comp is run now, "expressing to the board how stupid this is" or doing something that you are thinking "might be a dick move" likely won't do much to improve the situation.

Why don't you offer to help organize an onsite comp? Could be that no one on the board has a clue how to go about it which is probably the reason it's kind of messed up now.

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I offered to help them set one up that is run like a true comp. But never heard back. The reason I want to cure everything is to kind of show them, someone can do about anything to alter the meat. Hell if I wanted to I could go to a BBQ joint and buy the meat and turn it in. It's asinine. Our board is so backwards its unbelievable at times. The reason I think they won't do a true comp is cause if they allow the public to eat, it'll take away from the 2 church stands. They're very concerned about them, I don't know why. This was expressed to me on a separate unrelated issue.

So if people think its a dick move to serve stuff like I mentioned I won't. I'm kind of curious what people think.
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So if people think its a dick move to serve stuff like I mentioned I won't. I'm kind of curious what people think.
Once again, in my opinion, you already know the answer, but just to be sure, you could always set up a poll and let it run for a few days or a week to get confirmation from the members here...just for shits & giggles of course
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I offered to help them set one up that is run like a true comp. But never heard back.
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So if people think its a dick move to serve stuff like I mentioned I won't. I'm kind of curious what people think.
I never said it was a dick move. I was just curious why you were considering something that you thought might be.

Sounds like there no rules against cured meat. Nor would the organizers really know where it was cooked. But the whole thing might just be more frustration than it's worth.

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Well, good on ya for trying.



I never said it was a dick move. I was just curious why you were considering something that you thought might be.

Sounds like there no rules against cured meat. Nor would the organizers really know where it was cooked. But the whole thing might just be more frustration than it's worth.

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Didn't mean to make it seem that you said it be a dick move. Just curious what everyone thought I've got a general feeling.

And to expand a little more from previous post. I told a board member or 2 about the food safety issue, the fact someone could buy it, or that someone could cure a brisket for 3 days and make it look like they got one hell of a smoke ring.

As far as it being a frustration, not for me just for the fact that I haven't made Canadian bacon or pastrami in over probably 2 years. It's time. Plus I've always wanted to try pulled ham and a cured rib. So it might be a nice kick in the butt to get me going
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To Me, it goes against everything I know about ensuring food safety and fair competition.
Just say No!
Also sounds like you have an entrenched "board" that is locked in to the easy way (for them) and not interested in the problems you have raised or doing it correctly.
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The reason I think they won't do a true comp is cause if they allow the public to eat, it'll take away from the 2 church stands.
Actually if they do a "true comp" most likely the public won't be able to touch any of that food. UNLESS the team has a STFU. And likely a vending permit.

If you want a GOOD pulled ham...cure a butt to butt ham and smoke the ham like a butt Mmmm...
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Actually if they do a "true comp" most likely the public won't be able to touch any of that food. UNLESS the team has a STFU. And likely a vending permit.

If you want a GOOD pulled ham...cure a butt to butt ham and smoke the ham like a butt Mmmm...
I've always wanted to try it that way. I can imagine what it might taste like and it does sound good. I may just pick up a butt tomorrow and get it in cure.
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Sounds like a strange deal to me. I would be 10x more concerned aboot "food safety" issues with folks bringing cooked stuff from home. At least cooking on site, if someone had a question regarding handling, temps, etc. they wood have some folks to ask. Another thing that came to mind is holding temps and times. Who knows what some people are thinking.
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Ryan, if you want to do a true, 4 meat comp, find a KCBS comp in your area. My experience with the county fair circuit(in full disclosure I have won several ribbons for pickling and baking) has been its a little exclusive clique, where the judging generally takes place before the entries are viewed, and no judge wants to feel the wrath of "Edna", who has been "doing this since you were a mere thought in a high school tramps mind"......

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Why bother honestly? You are a great cook, don't waste your money turning in cured products to those that will never appreciate it. Do what you do! Let those that appreciate it enjoy it!
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