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I only have a 5lber and no problem on sticks.



But what I have done is made my stick stuffer tubes a lot shorter to reduce the back pressure. They also fit inside the 21 & 19mm collagen casing, so you can still knock out long lengths.



Happy to make you some pet-g custom tubes.



Been using mine for about 4 years now, same ones no hassle.



The other thing to look for in an electric are longer narrower, hoppers (what do you call the bit the meat goes in ?) as they'll require less pressure to stuff than the shorter wider ones.



It's all down to the proportion of the main cylinder to the size of the hole the sausage actually gets squeezed through. The smaller the difference the easier it'll stuff.


Good advice on the hopper. Never thought of that 1 but I can see the back pressure issue. What would you recommend?
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Bling: I agree with the advice above: Since your making very large batches (185 lbs) I would spend the money on a good quality unit. I think your choice of a 25 lb. unit sounds about right if the +100 lbs batches are what you typically work with. You do lose a couple lbs. of room in the tub due to the plunger.

I have a F. Dick 12 lb model and it is bulletproof but I sometimes wish it was 20-25 lb. Never had electric but I know it would be nice since I stuff by myself and don't have an extra set of hands...but man those electrics are expensive in the larger size

I have never used a LEM stuffer but have a LEM grinder - great quality. I looked a long time for a used F. Dick stuffer but never found one and had to pony up the $$ and buy new.

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Bling: I agree with the advice above: Since your making very large batches (185 lbs) I would spend the money on a good quality unit. I think your choice of a 25 lb. unit sounds about right if the +100 lbs batches are what you typically work with. You do lose a couple lbs. of room in the tub due to the plunger.



I have a F. Dick 12 lb model and it is bulletproof but I sometimes wish it was 20-25 lb. Never had electric but I know it would be nice since I stuff by myself and don't have an extra set of hands...but man those electrics are expensive in the larger size



I have never used a LEM stuffer but have a LEM grinder - great quality. I looked a long time for a used F. Dick stuffer but never found one and had to pony up the $$ and buy new.



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I gotta use a stool to get the angle on the crank.

Then again Im 4 0.05 tall.

I just use an extra beer in the mix.


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I've looked over the F dick models. Seems are Manuel. And $$$$$$ haha.

I've been reading reviews on the 20# LEM electric model. It is 659$. I believe that may be my best option. Any objections from anyone? Seems it can do the snack sticks pretty easily too.
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bling, have you considered a water stuffer? Like a dakotah water stuffer? I'm sure there are others out there other than the dakotah, but that's the only one that comes to mind right now. It uses water pressure to stuff with, and the horizontal design might just make it easier for stuffing snack sticks. I have no personal experience with them but I know I was looking at them a few years back when I was looking for a stuffer. I decided to go with a small manual stuffer because I so rarely do sausage the dakotah wasn't economical for me. Anyway, might be something to consider.

https://www.dakotahsausagestuffer.co...fer-s/1873.htm

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bling, have you considered a water stuffer? Like a dakotah water stuffer? I'm sure there are others out there other than the dakotah, but that's the only one that comes to mind right now. It uses water pressure to stuff with, and the horizontal design might just make it easier for stuffing snack sticks. I have no personal experience with them but I know I was looking at them a few years back when I was looking for a stuffer. I decided to go with a small manual stuffer because I so rarely do sausage the dakotah wasn't economical for me. Anyway, might be something to consider.

https://www.dakotahsausagestuffer.co...fer-s/1873.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poNDOxpkJUo


Interesting there. Where does the water go after you empty the tube of meat and drain it out? What's the purpose of the 2 fitting setup? 1 to run water in the other to help drain the water out?
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There was a guy round here briefly who made a water stuffer, back in the days when a bunch of members tended to pick on people who did things different to themselves.
Unfortunately he got chased away. There's only so much one english anti-bullying guy can do.

Happy to say things are way better round here now, but somewhere on the forum there is definitely a thread or 2 on the ins and out of water stuffers.

On the lem electric big bite:
http://www.lemproducts.com/product/b...usage-stuffers
Long narrow cylinder - looks good, can't see any issues with that and stix.
Variable speed control also a good idea.
But a 15watt motor ? How much gearing does this have - would like to see inside that gear box.

Also cool that they include a manual handle, for when it breaks or you despeartely need to stuff before the hurricane hits and the power is out

This looks pretty nice: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...AAAOSwYwJaFvID
25 watt motor on a 15l (33lb) stuffer.
States all metal gearing which the lem doesn't actually say.
And currently dirt cheap - worth keeping an eye on.

Same unit with a $373 'buy it now' tag - I hate bidding on stuff on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...YAAOSwlptaD149

Doesn't look like it has the hurricane handle - but hey is that worth an extra $300 ?
Hell no, for that you can buy a decent 15lb manual stuffer as well and still have change :-)

Just looks that bit more heavy duty than the lem. Also the exit tube is larger and better placed to transfer pressure evenly to the tubes.

Even if it wasn't $300 cheaper I'd probably go for this one.
The lem control box has push buttons and digital readout - this one has a manual turn knob - that will last longer and be less potential hassle.
Plus 60% more power in the motor.
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Interesting there. Where does the water go after you empty the tube of meat and drain it out? What's the purpose of the 2 fitting setup? 1 to run water in the other to help drain the water out?
That's one of the things that I don't particularly care about with it, the water is basically wasted. That's what the second hose is for, to drain the water out, presumably down the sink. I suppose you could save it for later use as cooking or plant water, etc. and not waste it though.
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There was a guy round here briefly who made a water stuffer, back in the days when a bunch of members tended to pick on people who did things different to themselves.

Unfortunately he got chased away. There's only so much one english anti-bullying guy can do.



Happy to say things are way better round here now, but somewhere on the forum there is definitely a thread or 2 on the ins and out of water stuffers.



On the lem electric big bite:

http://www.lemproducts.com/product/b...usage-stuffers

Long narrow cylinder - looks good, can't see any issues with that and stix.

Variable speed control also a good idea.

But a 15watt motor ? How much gearing does this have - would like to see inside that gear box.



Also cool that they include a manual handle, for when it breaks or you despeartely need to stuff before the hurricane hits and the power is out



This looks pretty nice: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...AAAOSwYwJaFvID

25 watt motor on a 15l (33lb) stuffer.

States all metal gearing which the lem doesn't actually say.

And currently dirt cheap - worth keeping an eye on.



Same unit with a $373 'buy it now' tag - I hate bidding on stuff on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...YAAOSwlptaD149



Doesn't look like it has the hurricane handle - but hey is that worth an extra $300 ?

Hell no, for that you can buy a decent 15lb manual stuffer as well and still have change :-)


From what I have read the lem has all metal internal Gears unlike the cabelas it was compared to. I remember reading that in a comparison between the 2.
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I'd still go for this over the lem.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...YAAOSwlptaD149
Just better designed to push the meat out efficiently, those shiny electronic boxes are all well and good - but give me a physical analog switch for reliability every day of the week :-)
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I'd still go for this over the lem.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...YAAOSwlptaD149

Just better designed to push the meat out efficiently, those shiny electronic boxes are all well and good - but give me a physical analog switch for reliability every day of the week :-)


Hmmmmm good point. I think I dug for reviews on them kind on eBay and never found anything on them
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There was a guy round here briefly who made a water stuffer, back in the days when a bunch of members tended to pick on people who did things different to themselves.
Unfortunately he got chased away. There's only so much one english anti-bullying guy can do.


Happy to say things are way better round here now, but somewhere on the forum there is definitely a thread or 2 on the ins and out of water stuffers.

On the lem electric big bite:
http://www.lemproducts.com/product/b...usage-stuffers
Long narrow cylinder - looks good, can't see any issues with that and stix.
Variable speed control also a good idea.
But a 15watt motor ? How much gearing does this have - would like to see inside that gear box.

Also cool that they include a manual handle, for when it breaks or you despeartely need to stuff before the hurricane hits and the power is out

This looks pretty nice: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...AAAOSwYwJaFvID
25 watt motor on a 15l (33lb) stuffer.
States all metal gearing which the lem doesn't actually say.
And currently dirt cheap - worth keeping an eye on.

Same unit with a $373 'buy it now' tag - I hate bidding on stuff on ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/15L-Electri...YAAOSwlptaD149

Doesn't look like it has the hurricane handle - but hey is that worth an extra $300 ?
Hell no, for that you can buy a decent 15lb manual stuffer as well and still have change :-)

Just looks that bit more heavy duty than the lem. Also the exit tube is larger and better placed to transfer pressure evenly to the tubes.

Even if it wasn't $300 cheaper I'd probably go for this one.
The lem control box has push buttons and digital readout - this one has a manual turn knob - that will last longer and be less potential hassle.
Plus 60% more power in the motor.


Yup---I remember that, CA !!
He got hammered pretty good here.
He went by the name of "fpnmf".

He was an ACE on Water Stuffers.

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Wish he made them of food safe materials. But that was not a priority.
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Wish he made them of food safe materials. But that was not a priority.
This was the thread on the non food safe home built water stuffer...the dude went by the name Nepas. He deleted his post. http://www.smoked-meat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19865
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Old 11-29-2017, 06:49 AM
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I stumbled on this one that looks neat.

http://www.superiorsausagestuffer.co...ghland-IL.html

I guess these would interest me a little more if I was into more lbs per batch.

My little bit of dabbling in the plastic scrap business, i personally would stick to food safe pipe.

Or I would have to break out one of my John Kirbys.......Similar to this one.

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Old 11-29-2017, 07:38 AM
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Our equipment holds up to 100 pounds of meat , which yields approximately 50 sausages
lol now that's what I call a bratwurst !
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:57 AM
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I think I'm going to go w the cheaper brand that aardvark has recommended. Yo guys think it's a good idea? There is no reviews on them so I would be more than glad to give reviews on it to possible help anyone who wonders
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