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  • Some important info on cooking dried red kidney beans

    I came across this over at Foods Of The World forum today, and thought it certainly merited being posted here...for safety's sake.

    My thanks to Andy at FOTW for the IP

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    I ran across this while doing some food related reading. I found this fascinating as I was unaware that dried beans, especially kidney beans were toxic until cooked at 212 degrees F for ten minutes. According the the FDA as few as 5 undercooked beans can cause the illness which has a 100% attack rate which means if you eat them you will become ill, the FDA report goes on to say that slow cookers such as crockpots must be used with great caution as the temperatures they cook with may not destroy the toxin and can even increase the beans toxicity by as much as 5 times.

    Here is a link to the FDA report.

    http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodSafety/F.../ucm071092.htm

    And here is a Wikipedia entry.

    Toxicity

    The toxic compound phytohaemagglutinin, a lectin, is present in many varieties of common bean but is especially concentrated in red kidney beans. Phytohaemagglutinin can be deactivated by cooking beans at 100 °C (212 °F) for ten minutes. However, for dry beans the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) also recommends an initial soak of at least 5 hours in water; the soaking water should be discarded.[2]

    The ten minutes at 100 °C (212 °F) is required to degrade the toxin, and is much shorter than the hours required to fully cook the beans themselves. However, lower cooking temperatures may have the paradoxical effect of potentiating the toxic effect of haemagglutinin. Beans cooked at 80 °C (176 °F) are reported to be up five times as toxic as raw beans.[2] Outbreaks of poisoning have been associated with the use of slow cookers, the low cooking temperatures of which may be unable to degrade the toxin.

    The primary symptoms of phytohaemagglutinin poisoning are nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. Onset is from 1 to 3 hours after consumption of improperly prepared beans, and symptoms typically resolve within a few hours.[2] Consumption of as few as four or five raw kidney beans may be sufficient to trigger symptoms.

    Beans are high in purines, which are metabolized to uric acid. Uric acid is not itself considered a toxin, but it may promote the development or exacerbation of gout. For this reason, persons with gout are often advised to limit their consumption of beans.[3] Uric acid is also an important antioxidant in humans and, according to cohort studies, might be neuroprotective in cases of multiple sclerosis and Parkinson's disease.
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    I had never heard of that. And I have tried a raw kidney bean...you really don't want to eat them anyway Thanks for the info!
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    • #3
      Me either I'll have to check it out.

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      • #4
        Its one of those foodbourne illnesses that will make you wish you were dead, and usually about the time they figure out what was wrong with you, you have recovered, with no lasting effects. Often seen in family functions, where Aunt Edna got rushed maiking her calico bean hotdish, and didn't fully hydrate/cook her dried beans. I have heard it is worse than E.coli, as far as the violent nature, and sudden onset of symptoms, but is over in about a day, at most...
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          Thanks for the tip Hoser, I never heard of it before.
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          • #6
            Did ya dry yerself any Castor Beans............


            Originally posted by ALX
            FDA and wikipedia LMAO....Nothing personal as i dry prolly 50 pounds of different beans every year,but this thread is awfully strange....

            What was the point .......

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            • #7
              Been Eating Beans for 62yrs and this is the first I heard of this...















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              • #8
                Think I'll stick with canned beans.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SmokinOutBack View Post
                  Think I'll stick with canned beans.
                  Ahhh, that may be the deal. I don't know that I have ever started with dried kidneys, rehydrated and cooked from there. Betcha the canned stuff is heated beyond the danger zone.
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                  • #10
                    Re:

                    Years ago I saw this piece in "The Last Whole Earth Catalog" that bore the title of "Boil Them Beans". It wasn't as detailed as the OP's post but I now understand what I read back then much better.

                    The crock pot I use in the winter really boils the liquid. I make lots of dried beans in the winter and cornbread.

                    My dad used to bury a dutch oven in the ground with coals under and on top of it....what he called "bean hole" beans. I don't have any experience
                    with it. Does anyone else ?



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                    • #11
                      yep
                      seriously some of you didn't know kidney beans were poisonous ?
                      weird. Should tell you on the packet.
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