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    i'm looking through distributors & it's a pita. most companies are in india & sell in super large bulk. anyone got any ideas about small quantity american companies?

    i'm specifically looking for silicon dioxide.
    i've been doing the research & it's the best thing i've found w/ no ill effects and is in most of your powdered spices.
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  • #2
    Nasty stuff to work with...PITA! Anyway, maybe you should contact a pro food/spice maker, it appears all the stuff you can order- mainly out of country too- is a metric ton.
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    • #3
      Take a look here Gyp
      http://www.grace.com/EngineeredMater...g/Default.aspx
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      • #4
        Rob, have a looksee here. I've bought it from them before. Quality stuff

        http://www.americanspice.com/catalog...b2a9bb241abf1f
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        • #5
          cool,thanx. i really don't want to put this stuff in my rubs but w/ a brown sugar base it needs something to keep it from caking.
          i'm also looking @ bulk granulated organic dried brown sugar.
          i want to keep it organic & natural.
          the orders are coming in for the rub big time now.
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          18" old smokey charcoal grill/smoker
          cast iron Hibachi
          22" Kettle w/ "Smoke-EZ" styled riser extension
          & rotisserator
          12x7 wells cargo vending trailer(mods in progress)
          stuffer,slicer & more carp than i can fit in it...
          Marshall amps & various awesome guitars,drums,P.A.,etc.recording studio.....

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          • #6
            IF you used a shaker, or explained to sift it, you could use good old rice grains... might be a cool sales point even-

            "Only NATURAL anti-caking..."
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            • #7
              Rob, do a search for free flowing brown sugar. Same thing as the regular brown sugar, with a lower moisture content. Should help with your problem.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Richtee View Post
                IF you used a shaker, or explained to sift it, you could use good old rice grains... might be a cool sales point even-

                "Only NATURAL anti-caking..."
                I still use the good ole rice grains fer stuff...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by roadrunr View Post
                  Rob, do a search for free flowing brown sugar. Same thing as the regular brown sugar, with a lower moisture content. Should help with your problem.
                  Hmmm no additives? Because sugar is VERY hygroscopic.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Richtee View Post
                    Hmmm no additives? Because sugar is VERY hygroscopic.
                    yer correct sir... not only sugar, but some salts are too. i would assume the free flowing brown sugar itself has an anti caking agent.
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                    • #11
                      the orders are coming in for the rub big time now.
                      Congratulations :-) Pleased for you.

                      A decent, cheap,easy to acquire anti-caking agent would be useful.
                      Rice grains - would rice flour work as well ? (take 2 seconds to make in the MB)

                      (few minutes later)
                      Powdered sugars contain corn starch as an anti-caking agent;
                      Anyone tried using corn flour/starch ?
                      Thinking about it I've used it in sweetmaking, mix with icing sugar as a coating for marshmallows, turkish delight, nougat etc
                      Stops the icing sugar going sticky.

                      Not sure how it would effect arub's properties, but might be worth a try.
                      Last edited by curious aardvark; 08-12-2009, 11:04 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blues_n_cues View Post
                        the orders are coming in for the rub big time now.
                        Good deal! Best of luck to you!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by roadrunr View Post
                          yer correct sir... not only sugar, but some salts are too. i would assume the free flowing brown sugar itself has an anti caking agent.
                          most sugars do,like powdered & icing sugar from what i've been researching.
                          the free flowing brown sugars i'm looking @ are like kosher salt-larger granules & dehydrated. maybe i should buy a dehydrator myself & try that.
                          or better yet.....
                          sell the recipe to a major manufacturer w/ a lifetime royalties clause & retire again...


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                          18" old smokey charcoal grill/smoker
                          cast iron Hibachi
                          22" Kettle w/ "Smoke-EZ" styled riser extension
                          & rotisserator
                          12x7 wells cargo vending trailer(mods in progress)
                          stuffer,slicer & more carp than i can fit in it...
                          Marshall amps & various awesome guitars,drums,P.A.,etc.recording studio.....

                          Blues-N-Cues Concessions & Catering
                          http://blues-n-cuesbbq.com/
                          my music recordings-
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                          • #14
                            this may be the answer.....
                            scroll down to the comments.
                            http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/b...r-saver-005915

                            i wonder if a crouton would work?
                            Last edited by blues_n_cues; 08-13-2009, 06:47 AM. Reason: brain fart
                            brink vertical charcoal(the carp)
                            18" old smokey charcoal grill/smoker
                            cast iron Hibachi
                            22" Kettle w/ "Smoke-EZ" styled riser extension
                            & rotisserator
                            12x7 wells cargo vending trailer(mods in progress)
                            stuffer,slicer & more carp than i can fit in it...
                            Marshall amps & various awesome guitars,drums,P.A.,etc.recording studio.....

                            Blues-N-Cues Concessions & Catering
                            http://blues-n-cuesbbq.com/
                            my music recordings-
                            http://www.reverbnation.com/rlcltd





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                            • #15
                              looking at the link, it's almost as if they're rehydrating it.
                              so brown sugar lumps up when it dries out - and what the terra cotta disc does is adds moisture.
                              Not sure that would work for a rub.
                              Now I'm slightly confused. I always thought it was damp getting in that caused spice mixes to clump and the anticaking agents actively absorbed water to keep it dry and flowing.
                              that post is claiming the exact opposite - but maybe it's just for neat sugar.

                              yeah silicon dioxide is used to absorb water.

                              So looks like you need to do a little resaerch on your rub - is it clumping because it's drying out or getting damp ?
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