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    I am in the foil your butt group but cannot do it properly without leaks in the smoker or holding cooler. They are also hard to handle once the butts starts falling apart at finish temp. Foil trays are OK but get weak with a 9lb butt in them. Someone wondered if Oven bags would work in the smoker so I thought I would find out. Bags are good to 400 degrees so if you have a stickburner that might surpass that, read no further.

    My Choice of Bag (cause that's what I had in the cupboard)


    Once butts reached 160 degrees, I bagged 2, foiled one and the 4th went in a foil tray. The temp probe can be inserted in the bag and sealed, or can be poked thru the TOP of the bag to minimize leaks.








    Once the butts reached temp I pulled from smoker and placed in cooler till dinnertime. The trayed butt had to be held delicately to keep from dropping it or loosing juice in the transfer. they are also hard to position in the cooler at times. The foiled one had to be handled even more delicately even though I double wrapped, it was like moving jello in foil. The bags transferred the easiest....try doing this with a foil wrapped butt!!! (don't try this at home as you should always support your butt)



    I found the bags worked best for coolering as they could just be put in there on top of a towel with a towel on top. They tucked nicely beside each other. To remove just grab a sealed end and lift it out. No runs, drips, or errors! The bags are plenty sturdy enough to handle the weight and I had no punctures from the protruding bone.

    I found no difference in taste or texture with the 3 methods I tested. For those in the no-foil group, the bags can still be used after the smoke to hold in the cooler instead of foil.

    The bags are under $1 apiece... so cheap enough to use, which I will be doing on all my future smokes!


    Barry.
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    • #3
      Nice. I double/tripple up on the foil pans for butts/briskets due to weight. We have some of those bags in the pantry. Have seen a friends wife use them or similar in crock pot stuff. She swears by them
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      • #4
        Never have used one...Could be a great thing to play with...
        Craig
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        • #5
          I like it! However I been putting my foil pans inside a 9x13 baking tray to ease moving them about.

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          • #6
            Nice trick, did the bagged ones get to pulling temp quicker?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gmotoman View Post
              I like it! However I been putting my foil pans inside a 9x13 baking tray to ease moving them about.
              I buy restaurant quality pans and have little or no problems with the pans collapsing... Even with a +14# brisket in it...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by barleypop View Post
                Nice trick, did the bagged ones get to pulling temp quicker?
                They were all within 5 degrees at the end, can't remember who finished the race first.

                Barry.

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                • #9
                  That's very ingenious.
                  But you could simply use stronger trays :-)

                  I buy packs of 12 from costco. works out around $0.70 each. And they're pretty tough. I've two 4lb butts in one no problem.
                  Plus they're exactly the right size to fit two in my chafing units.
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                  • #10
                    Pretty cool---Never would have thought the bags would hold up.

                    My Foil pans hold up good---Maybe I got better ones---I bought them from the Internet, in a box of 250, so I'm good for awhile.

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                    • #11
                      Looks good but I kinda have a problem with putting my meat in plastic bags then putting in a high temperature area knowing the kind of toxins plastic gives off at high temperatures....that's just me tho..

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by babyshaq270 View Post
                        Looks good but I kinda have a problem with putting my meat in plastic bags then putting in a high temperature area knowing the kind of toxins plastic gives off at high temperatures....that's just me tho..

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                        Yeah, I thought of that too but there are studies (someone got paid to state their opinion) all over about how we should not use foil due to leaching of the aluminum, not sear our food due to Acrylamide, not use nitrates and nitrites....the list goes on and on.

                        In the end i guess we all have to choose our own poison and keep on smoking!

                        Barry.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by babyshaq270 View Post
                          Looks good but I kinda have a problem with putting my meat in plastic bags then putting in a high temperature area knowing the kind of toxins plastic gives off at high temperatures....that's just me tho..

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                          Originally posted by Biteme7951 View Post
                          Yeah, I thought of that too but there are studies (someone got paid to state their opinion) all over about how we should not use foil due to leaching of the aluminum, not sear our food due to Acrylamide, not use nitrates and nitrites....the list goes on and on.

                          In the end i guess we all have to choose our own poison and keep on smoking!

                          Barry.
                          Well heck I guess you gotta die from something

                          Good idea, I need to ponder on it for a bit.
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                          • #14
                            Ok, cheap disposable foil pans suck, just foil even double wrapped leaks (every time), and the turkey bag will work.

                            But why not use a 1/2 size extra deep stainless hotel steamer pan like this one. Should hold 2 butts per pan. You could use a stainless lid or just foil over the top if you had a big butt (oh does that just sound wrong <G>). $11.50 each in single quantity ($10.20 each for 6 or more). Depending on the cooler, you could stack a couple of these in there. Would make moving off the smoker a rock solid task with no risk of foil collapse. Another plus is you can pull without fear of poking holes in a disposable pan and just serve it in the same pan. And if you have a Cambro container, it should fit as it's 1/2 standard pan size (just deeper). Plus it is reusable and dishwasher safe.



                            And there is always the full size deep pan as well.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dward51 View Post
                              Ok, cheap disposable foil pans suck, just foil even double wrapped leaks (every time), and the turkey bag will work.

                              But why not use a 1/2 size extra deep stainless hotel steamer pan like this one. Should hold 2 butts per pan. You could use a stainless lid or just foil over the top if you had a big butt (oh does that just sound wrong <G>). $11.50 each in single quantity ($10.20 each for 6 or more). Depending on the cooler, you could stack a couple of these in there. Would make moving off the smoker a rock solid task with no risk of foil collapse. Another plus is you can pull without fear of poking holes in a disposable pan and just serve it in the same pan. And if you have a Cambro container, it should fit as it's 1/2 standard pan size (just deeper). Plus it is reusable and dishwasher safe.



                              And there is always the full size deep pan as well.

                              I like this gonna check oot CnC for some of these, if not Amazon Thanks
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