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  • Morton Salami and Pepperoni

    Finally getting around to trying these.

    Used pretty much the Morton's standard recipe which can be found here. Minor exceptions are since I used really lean ground beef I added 1 tbs of oats per pound of meat. Hit 'em real quick with the coffee grinder so they were more of a powder. In deference to my son's dislike of fennel seed hunks, I hit them with the coffee grinder as well. He doesn't mind the flavor, just the texture. And no liquid smoke. I'll be smoking them similar to the way Bearcarver does his Bear logs.

    1 hour at 130° no smoke
    Start smoke going
    2 hours at 130°
    2 hours at 150°
    2 hours at 170°
    Raise to 180°
    Keep heat at 180° until internal temperatures is 160°

    Started out with a big package of ground beef.



    Mixed the cure and spices ahead of time.



    Salami on the left and pepperoni on the right . . . I think.

    Anyway, weighed a pound of meat into a large bowl



    Got them mixed and separated into two 8 oz. balls.



    Then shaped into a log and onto some plastic wrap.



    Did some "Capt Dan Saran Wrap Fattie Rolling" to tighten them up.



    And put the four of them in the fridge.



    They looked kind of small to me. A half pound of salami is snack size if I had my way. But anyway there they are.

    Or were. Then I came back here and reread the recipe and realized I put 1 and 1/2 TABLESPOONS instead of 1 and 1/2 TEASPOONS of Tender Quick cure into each pound of meat.

    So I tossed 'em.

    But I made another batch -- measured correctly this time (goes faster the second time around) and they are in the fridge.

    Thought about smoking them tomorrow. They will have been curing about 17 hours before I would put them on the smoker. But I kind of like Bear's idea about unwrapping them and giving them another day in the fridge. So maybe I'll wait and smoke 'em on Sunday.

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  • #2
    oops - shiite happens

    I have made the Morton's stuff, and it's pretty good.
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    • #3
      Wish I could say it has never happened to me...gonna be good Dave.
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      • #4
        That will be some good snack material, Dave. At least you didn't have to throw away a large batch. That would suck big time.
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        • #5
          MMMMmmmm..... I can't wait for the final pics (with slices I hope).

          If you don't screw up a little now & then, you don't enjoy the successes as much!!!!

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          • #6
            right - next time, instead of throwing the ground meat away.
            Simply mix it into fresh ground meat so that the new mix has the right amount of cure salt in.

            So you used either 2 or 3x (never entirely sure whether a tbs is 2 or 3 tsp) more than you wanted. So assuming 3x - you take 1/3 lb of the over cured and mix with 2/3 lb uncured - result 1lb correctly cured.

            You then not only don't have to throw away perfectly good meat - but you get more finished sausage
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            • #7
              Originally posted by curious aardvark View Post
              right - next time, instead of throwing the ground meat away.
              Simply mix it into fresh ground meat so that the new mix has the right amount of cure salt in.

              So you used either 2 or 3x (never entirely sure whether a tbs is 2 or 3 tsp) more than you wanted. So assuming 3x - you take 1/3 lb of the over cured and mix with 2/3 lb uncured - result 1lb correctly cured.

              You then not only don't have to throw away perfectly good meat - but you get more finished sausage

              CA,
              I thought about mentioning that, but I wasn't sure of one thing.
              How long would you have to get the other fresh ground meat to mix with it, and still have that little trick work. LOL---I'm Curious too!!

              Thanks,
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              • #8
                well if you've used too much cure - then it won't react, so basically as long as you've not cooked the over cured meat - days, weeks, months. The unreacted cure will still be available.
                No sensible timelimit that I can think of.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by curious aardvark View Post
                  right - next time, instead of throwing the ground meat away.
                  Simply mix it into fresh ground meat so that the new mix has the right amount of cure salt in.

                  So you used either 2 or 3x (never entirely sure whether a tbs is 2 or 3 tsp) more than you wanted. So assuming 3x - you take 1/3 lb of the over cured and mix with 2/3 lb uncured - result 1lb correctly cured.

                  You then not only don't have to throw away perfectly good meat - but you get more finished sausage
                  3 teaspoons = 1 tablespoon so 3 times as much cure.

                  Yeah, I thought about that but then I would have also had to add the correct amount of spices to the correct logs. By then I wasn't completely sure which batch was which. So instead of winding up with 6 lbs of who knows what, I figured I'd toss the 2 pounds I messed up and end up with 2 lbs of what I was trying to make in the first place.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by curious aardvark View Post
                    well if you've used too much cure - then it won't react, so basically as long as you've not cooked the over cured meat - days, weeks, months. The unreacted cure will still be available.
                    No sensible timelimit that I can think of.
                    Thank You, Sir!!!

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                    • #11
                      Hey Dave,
                      Slice some real thin, and I'll give you my fax number.

                      Thanks,
                      Bear
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                      Easy to follow Step By Steps: Pulled Cured Boston Butt Ham and Buckboard Bacon--Smoked Salmon-- Bacon-On-A-Stick--Bacon (Extra Smokey)--Boneless Cured & Smoked Pork Chops & CB--Canadian Bacon & Dried Beef--Ham Twins (Double Smoked)--Double Smoked Hams X 4--Bear Logs (All Beef--Unstuffed)--Smoked Bear Loaf (All Beef-Mild Hot)--Prime Rib (My Best ever)--Another Prime Rib--Chucky (Pulled Beef)--Twin Chuckies--Pork and Beef Spares--Rare Beef (for Sammies)--Raspberry Chiffon Pie---


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                      • #12
                        Cups and spoons should be banned.......weigh it in grams....it's the most accurate way. Having said that I still screw it up time to time, well until I started to check off the ingredients off a list. that seems to help my CRS syndrome some.
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                        • #13
                          Looks good man. What is this saran wrap method you speak of?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bearcarver View Post
                            Hey Dave,
                            Slice some real thin, and I'll give you my fax number.
                            LOL. I'm hoping they will stand up to a thin slice. I purposely tried to overmix them to kind of mush everything together.

                            Originally posted by DanMcG View Post
                            Cups and spoons should be banned.......weigh it in grams....it's the most accurate way.
                            I agree. And Rich has posted several times the weight in grams for a tablespoon of TQ -- 12.5 grams if I recall correctly. Guess I could have done the math. But for some reason I had tablespoons in my head (and hand ) when I went to measure the TQ.

                            Originally posted by someAZdude View Post
                            Looks good man. What is this saran wrap method you speak of?
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                            • #15
                              I'm gonna keep lurkin your thread. I've been curious about Mortons recipes for awhile, very curious of the outcome myself.
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